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Old 06-25-2014, 02:14 PM   #1
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Anyone here ever shortened forks?

Hey,

My modified chinarider Apache POR 125 (GY125) is coming on nicely, (I'll upload some pics soon) but I just wondered if anyone has any experience with shortening forks? I've seen tutorials on the youtube and all that, but as always, I'll happily learn from your experience if you are happy to share.

Unless you say "don't do it" in which I'll probably ignore you.

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Old 06-26-2014, 12:29 AM   #2
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How much are you wanting to shorten ?
Loosen triples and slide the forks up


 
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:28 PM   #3
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How much are you wanting to shorten ?
Loosen triples and slide the forks up
Indeed, if you only want to shorten the forks an inch or so, sliding the forks up the triple tree is easiest.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:34 PM   #4
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Hi folks, no, I'm looking at 3 or 4 inches altogether. I've borrowed a set of shorter forks to try out for size, it really affects the stance, but the handlebars I'm using only allow about half an inch adjustment through the triple tee..


 
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Old 06-27-2014, 02:18 PM   #5
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I wonder if pit bike forks will fit your motorcycle?
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:48 PM   #6
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I wonder if pit bike forks will fit your motorcycle?
I've got some on right now!! so YES!

BUT. my front wheel doesn't fit those forks, and the wheel that came with them (borrowed) is a mag, not spokey dokeys.

gotta admit though,I'm quite tempted to take my current forks apart and see if some internal shortening can be done.... I'm sure I read some tutorials online but I'm blowed if I can find them now!!

I suppose I could keep an eye out for a cheap pit bike front end with a spoked wheel.. That would have the added benefit of a smaller front wheel too........


 
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:21 AM   #7
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It depends on the forks. My Skyteam 200 had a very simple (i.e. cheap/primitive ) design. It was basically one long spring with an oil valve damper at the bottom. I simply unbolted the caps and cut a couple of inches off the springs. Other forks are more complicated. Heres a tutorial for a more sophisticated fork design.

http://www.customfighters.com/forums...ad.php?t=45166
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Old 06-28-2014, 06:01 AM   #8
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It's quite simple with the older damping rod style...

easyest way................
pull the forks apart and put spacer tubes over the damping rods..
& shorten the springs.. but the compression damping most lightly won't
work...

not so easy way....
cut the bottom of the damping rods... weld a short bit of solid rod in the bottom
then re-drill and tap for the bolt..then re-drill the rebound damping holes up the
damping rods the same amount you cut off... you will retain both compression
& rebound damping... you don't have to shorten the springs....

If they are USD forks thing get a bit trickyer...




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Old 06-28-2014, 01:41 PM   #9
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Thanks for the replies folks, I'll get around to taking them apart one day and we'll see what happens.... It'll have to be the simple way or no way. I can't weld and am doing the bike on an uber budget...


 
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:24 PM   #10
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I'm thinking that if they are conventional forks it's just a matter of shortening the spacers under the caps. If they are USD, it's a lot more involved.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:56 PM   #11
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I'm thinking that if they are conventional forks it's just a matter of shortening the spacers under the caps. If they are USD, it's a lot more involved.
yer but thats just removeing spring pre-load & letting the forks sag...
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:45 AM   #12
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Would swapping the tubes from the shorter pit bike forks into the lowers that hold the wheel you want be a possibility?
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:37 AM   #13
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yer but thats just removeing spring pre-load & letting the forks sag...
OK folks, I've taken the forks apart and they're really simple. (not unlike their owner)

There's a spacer at the top of the forks, which when taken out ans left out, seems to shorten the forks by a couple centimetres with no obvious effect. I've not ridden it yet with this as the bike isn't rideable yet. According to the quote above, this is letting the forks sag, is this a bad thing?!

And IF I wanted more lowering, how bad is it to cut a couple of centimetres off the spring then reassemble?



 
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Old 07-24-2014, 04:56 PM   #14
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You're reducing, or even completely eliminating spring preload, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Depends on too many factors, and personal preference is just one of them.


 
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:20 PM   #15
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Thanks krasi, I'm willing to give it a shot.. What about cutting the spring down a little bit, is that doable?


 
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