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Join Date: Apr 2016
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Hi Im new here. but iv been lurking for a while and I can't seem to find what engine the Hawk 250 is a clone of. I am under the impression its a Honda But which one? or am I comleatly wrong lol.
FYI I want to know so I can know which parts I can use nambrand and aftermarket parts with. Thanks in advance |
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,909
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Upsized clone of a Honda CG 125.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
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Welcome!
You'll find Wikipedia info on the CG125, and you'll discover that it was never distributed in the US or Canada.
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: central illinois
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do you know if this also true of the counterbalanced engine (only with the added shaft)?
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
Posts: 7,112
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Here's a great read... http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1975cg125/ That said, I've had 4 CG motors now, all non-counterbalanced. I'm looking forward to the TT250 to see if there's any discernable difference.
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 13
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So it being an up scale means there aren’t any performance parts for the engine? ( things like cams, bore kits, etc?)
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
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I know my Q motor (OHC Suzuki-type) had Suzuki cams from "Hot Cams" that would drop right in there were a few past members modding them for power but I've not seen anything like that for the CG motor. Being pushrod, I think a torque cam would be nice. Maybe someone can get a cam and send it to a grinder to have a custom lift and duration set up???
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Join Date: Apr 2016
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hmm I will have to look in to that, thanks.
assuming the jug is big enough would it be possible to bore it to a true 250 and drop a Honda piston in? |
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Honda never made a CG250, only 125 and 150, and those were workhorse engines not designed to make a lot of power. There is only so much you can do with a pushrod engine with a single lobe cam.
The counterbalanced engine is essentially the same as the non counterbalanced engine. Most parts are interchangeable within the same manufacturer but not necessarily between manufacturers. |
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Join Date: Apr 2016
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oh ok cool. Still I can't leave well enough alone when it comes to modding engines and bikes. ill have to do more research but if there are any known mods besides upgrading to a different 30mm carb would you be so kind as to point me in the proper direction?
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Honda DIDN'T made any 150 (62mm bore) ***bottom hole is smaller*** http://www.chyangwa.net/forum.php?mo...authorid=75082 Chonda (kick& e-start) "cg" is based from Kymco...
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 436
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Replace the anchor with a fmf or Pro circuit t4 exhaust.It Sounds much better and it pulls stronger.
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 13
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ok thanks
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Toys n bikes, 110 Monster aka Zombie, Yamaha Blaster fully set up to race aka typhoon, traded typhoon for a KTM 520 ex that is my current ride aka Jennifer, will be getting a Hawk 250 as soon as the ktm is sold so soon. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
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After intake and carb changes, you could also take the time to port match the intake and exhaust and then polish the exhaust. It won't help much, but it'll make you feel better.
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
Posts: 7,112
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...and fun in the process for us gearheads!
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