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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Bashan: fresh new bikes
It all started when I was looking at the fine print of the models listed on Bashan's EPA/DOT certification on the EPA Excel sheet listing all the bikes certified. I had found BMS's CRP 250 name as one of the models certified a couple weeks ago, which was a cool thing adding yet another dual sport to the mail-order world, among other names. In fact, I am copying and pasting the model names from the EPA site to show what I mean: BMS 250 CRP, BROZZ 250, BSR 250, CR250, MOTOMAX 250, RSF250R, Razer 250, SHARK 250, STORM 250
We are familiar with a few of the models, but there are models that are listed that never do get sold over here. One of the names, CR250, I thought was a blatant rip-off of a well-know Honda dirt bike, but figured that is what Chinese companies do--rip off names. However, I went to Roketa's site as I hadn't been for a while, and found the CR250. It is not a dirt bike, per se, but some of the smaller companies will get several models certified on the same certificate across the bike spectrum as the bikes use the same engine--Dongfang does this where they somehow get their bobber, sport bike, and an enduro on the same certificate. Well, this is the CR250. Like the BMS CRP 250, it might not be sold as a Bashan...
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Join Date: May 2006
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Which leads me to another Bashan non-dirt bike. I had seen a California online retailer who posted a video of the BMS CRP 250 claim that BMS was pursuing CARB certification. They confirmed it when I asked them in a comment. I figured retailers of Chinese motorsports will claim anything, so I tried to get information from the source. I called BMS and the woman who answered could not speak, nor understand English well enough to answer my question about CARB. I forgot about a contact I have had for a few years who is the Bashan rep for N. America. He told me about Peace Sports getting the Brozz, for instance, long before the Peace Sports rep posted this information, as well as who distributes the Bashan Storm and DB-41H (it is not Peace Sports). Since Bashan is the OEM for BMS's bike, I figured he would know, and then let me know that Bashan is pursuing CARB as well since the bikes are technically all Bashan bikes. Good and bad news came--BMS is pursuing CARB for THEIR enduro, but the bad news is that Bashan is not pursuing CARB for the rest of the Bashan branded bikes--the Storm 250, the Brozz 250, and the Enforcer, aka DB-41H. But he did mention Bashan is pursuing CARB for a 150cc street bike. I figured it would be a bike in the GLV (Grom-like-vehicle) class, meaning a mini, because who would bother selling a full-size 150cc full-size street bike, but when I asked for clarification, he confirmed the bike IS a full-size street bike in vein of Honda (my guess a version of a Honda we don't get in the US). He sent me photos, and like the bike or not, it will add one more low-cost beginner's bike to our ever growing list of Chinese bikes, but also includes California. I had posted these on the BMS enduro thread, so sorry for repeats if you already saw the bike there.
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That looks kind of like a modern adv bike. A few farkles and bam! Adv bike. I think it would be a good buy if it's under $2000. |
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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I thought it looks like a Lifan KP 150 Mini, just in blue plastics.
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Join Date: May 2006
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![]() Here is the lineup of Bashan bikes sold as 'Apollos': https://gokartsusa.com/250-Motorcycl...rt-Enduro.aspx Here is the CR250 by itself at $1600. I am really liking it now that I know it is available (just not to me in California) https://gokartsusa.com/Apollo-Enduro...-Bike-3-1.aspx But the BSR 250/aka Enforcer is hard to beat for $400 less, but again, California says "no, no, no..." For a poor-man's adventure bike, the CR250 is intriguing, however. I think we will be seeing more of them once someone takes the plunge. Megadan showed an interest in the bike for the same reason as you--a potential adventure tourer.
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A 300-400 cc ADV at 1/2 the price of the GS310 would sell like hot cakes.
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culcune, we CA fools can only keep our fingers crossed.
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Join Date: May 2006
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Short, teaser video of the CR250. I forgot that Roketa lists the bikes they sell under the 'Roketa' brand name, so found it by putting in Roketa cr250 on youtube. I know enduros are always more practical than street bikes (yes, I know this is kind of 'adv bike-ish' but still more street than dirt), but I am really liking this bike!
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Join Date: May 2019
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I actually just ordered one of the cr250s. Actually the one from gokartusa.com that is mislabeled as an Apollo. I’m excited to get it. I’ve heard of at least one other person ordering one but no owners yet that I know of. Hopefully everything pans out.
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Join Date: May 2006
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These retailers leave something to be desired with their mislabeling! Nothing wrong with Apollo, but besides getting away with calling it a Roketa since they distribute the beast, these are Bashan made bikes, not Apollo. You caught on to the mislabeling, but there are numerous members who don't know the difference. A good example is the Bashan DB-41-250H or BSR 250 being labeled as a 'Hawk2' which insinuates it as a RPS/Hensim product. Kind of like calling a Chevrolet Silverado a 'F 150 2' or something silly like that. Nothing wrong with either brand, but a Chevy is a Chevy and a Ford is a Ford.
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Since this thread has been revived thanks to Joshlaird and his intriguing CR 250, I want to bring up the fact that Bashan's 150 street bike I posted a photo of above and here was recently granted EPA/DOT certification. Not sure the niche this will fit in, but it is good looking. Since it is related via Bashan, it is kind of a 'baby' CR 250.
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I see Powersportsmax is finally using the real bike names as opposed to their own codes. https://www.powersportsmax.com/produ...ducts_id/20549
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![]() Edit: This thread is 5 months old lol. Didn’t realize that. Meh. Still. Good info. |
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Many members know the quality of Bashan, so are not hesitant to buy the bike being an unknown, but rather what niche market it fits besides it being a standard of sorts. Most members here ride dual-sports, and don't know what to make of the CR, lol, myself included. Is it a 'ADV' bike? Pure street? With the seat height, members trying to find a shorter bike for their wife or girlfriend have another bike to choose from. You and the other member are Guinea pigs of sorts buying this bike...thanks! ![]()
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