Gots me a new toy.

liverchip · 01-26-2007, 07:05 PM

Well. made the purchase of a TSM 200XY, Shineray dirt bike yesterday. I picked it up crated and T-Motorsports is doing the California DMV stuff. It is a green sticker. Got the bike assembled and running last night and did the break-in (ride it like you stole it method) today. The oil has been changed and all is well. As some may know I have owned 2 china quads for a couple years so an very aware of the prep and quality issues and I must admit that this new bike is light-years better. It came with actual assembly/prep instructions, the operators manual and a parts list with part numbers in English. Valve specs, lube and other maintenance procedures are also included. Granted the grammatical issued and spelling atrocities abound as well as some missing information is still affecting the documents, but they are much better than the 7 pages of nonsense I received from Kazuma on my first go-around. As far as quality of the machine I am quite impressed at this point. The welds are much cleaner, The battery box is now metal and most if the critical nuts are now locknuts. The plastics are nice and beefy as well. I have of course loc-tited everything else quite liberally and checked everything for good torque. (also included in the manual). It appears these guys are paying attention as now most if the critical nuts/bolts are also painted with neon yellow lines to make fastener inspection easier as well. The bike is quite fast and so far runs like a top and starts right up via starter or kick. Chinese bikes keep coming out like this and the Japanese boys better be watching their backs.

liverchip · 01-26-2007, 07:17 PM

Oh another thing....It has a factory skid plate as well....nice

skyscooter · 01-26-2007, 09:27 PM

you said you were 6 foot right. i would like to know how they size up for you, i'm also 6' and 200lbs. i was thinking it would be a nice bike if it were about the same size as a crf230 or ttr230. how was t-motorsports to work with.

liverchip · 01-27-2007, 12:04 AM

T-Motorsports was fine to work with. As I posted, they took care of the registration issues(always an issue here in California) and seem to carry a good variety of parts at their warehouse(I saw it...seemed impressive...better than the idiot dealer I cut my teeth on with Kazuma quads). As for size comparisons with a CRF 230, I was thinking the same thing before my purchase. I will post the true measurements of my bike as soon as I can. I am 6' as well and about 210 lbs and have no issues with size. It is comfy and quite quick in my opinion.

culcune · 01-27-2007, 11:13 AM

The bike should be quicker than most of our streeted enduros. I had seriously considered ordering one of their Lifans, have them put it together (the woman I dealt with at the time said they would), and ride it back the 250 miles to Yuma. (No, I would't ride on Interstate 10!) After buying the bike, I wanted them to send me the MCO and bill of sale, and I would register the bike and get the plate, and take Amtrak or Greyhound to them, and ride back, maybe taking 2 days. Well, it is fun to think...

culcune · 01-27-2007, 11:18 AM

You will have to keep us posted on how this bike does. Shinerays have not been too popular in the US for no particular reason, and T-Motorsports is one of the few importers/dealers of Shineray. I also liked the look of their enduro, but I don't think they import that model anymore, and they seem to just concentrate on their gray-market Lifan enduros. If you go to Shineray's site, they are one of the only, if not only, Chinese manufacturers to sponsor an MX team.

liverchip · 01-27-2007, 05:21 PM

Well, been riding the crap outta it all day with no issues to report. No loosening fasteners, no stalls, no hiccups whatsoever. The motor is well broken in now and the oil is now clean as a whistle. The bike looks to be a carbon copy of a DB 27. The bike has plenty of power and climbs like a goat. I haven't GPS'd the top speed yet. Been a a bit of a wuss and afraid to turn it loose.

liverchip · 01-27-2007, 05:25 PM

It is worth noting that the California bikes (at least mine anyway) have an EGR system and PCV valve and vent to the air box. I think I will make these puppies go away.

blimpman · 01-27-2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liverchip

Well, been riding the crap outta it all day with no issues to report. No loosening fasteners, no stalls, no hiccups whatsoever. The motor is well broken in now and the oil is now clean as a whistle. The bike looks to be a carbon copy of a DB 27. The bike has plenty of power and climbs like a goat. I haven't GPS'd the top speed yet. Been a a bit of a wuss and afraid to turn it loose.

So where are the pictures?? Curious China Riders want to see....

culcune · 01-27-2007, 11:03 PM

[quote="liverchip"] The bike looks to be a carbon copy of a DB 27. quote]

I had corresponded with a rep from Shineray a few months back. He told me that they OEM'd for a few companies; BMX (I have seen them on Ebay, that's about it) and Terminator (aka-Roketa), hence the resemblance to the DB 27. I don't think they manufacture all of Roketa's line, but a few of them, and this is probably one of them.

liverchip · 01-28-2007, 12:15 AM

OK, just awaiting approval of my registration in order to post photos within the gallery.

liverchip · 01-28-2007, 09:41 PM

The first photos have been posted.

01-26-2007, 07:05 PM	#1
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	Gots me a new toy. Well. made the purchase of a TSM 200XY, Shineray dirt bike yesterday. I picked it up crated and T-Motorsports is doing the California DMV stuff. It is a green sticker. Got the bike assembled and running last night and did the break-in (ride it like you stole it method) today. The oil has been changed and all is well. As some may know I have owned 2 china quads for a couple years so an very aware of the prep and quality issues and I must admit that this new bike is light-years better. It came with actual assembly/prep instructions, the operators manual and a parts list with part numbers in English. Valve specs, lube and other maintenance procedures are also included. Granted the grammatical issued and spelling atrocities abound as well as some missing information is still affecting the documents, but they are much better than the 7 pages of nonsense I received from Kazuma on my first go-around. As far as quality of the machine I am quite impressed at this point. The welds are much cleaner, The battery box is now metal and most if the critical nuts are now locknuts. The plastics are nice and beefy as well. I have of course loc-tited everything else quite liberally and checked everything for good torque. (also included in the manual). It appears these guys are paying attention as now most if the critical nuts/bolts are also painted with neon yellow lines to make fastener inspection easier as well. The bike is quite fast and so far runs like a top and starts right up via starter or kick. Chinese bikes keep coming out like this and the Japanese boys better be watching their backs. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-26-2007, 07:17 PM	#2
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	Oh another thing....It has a factory skid plate as well....nice __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-27-2007, 12:04 AM	#4
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	T-Motorsports was fine to work with. As I posted, they took care of the registration issues(always an issue here in California) and seem to carry a good variety of parts at their warehouse(I saw it...seemed impressive...better than the idiot dealer I cut my teeth on with Kazuma quads). As for size comparisons with a CRF 230, I was thinking the same thing before my purchase. I will post the true measurements of my bike as soon as I can. I am 6' as well and about 210 lbs and have no issues with size. It is comfy and quite quick in my opinion. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-27-2007, 11:13 AM	#5
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	The bike should be quicker than most of our streeted enduros. I had seriously considered ordering one of their Lifans, have them put it together (the woman I dealt with at the time said they would), and ride it back the 250 miles to Yuma. (No, I would't ride on Interstate 10!) After buying the bike, I wanted them to send me the MCO and bill of sale, and I would register the bike and get the plate, and take Amtrak or Greyhound to them, and ride back, maybe taking 2 days. Well, it is fun to think... __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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01-27-2007, 11:18 AM	#6
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	You will have to keep us posted on how this bike does. Shinerays have not been too popular in the US for no particular reason, and T-Motorsports is one of the few importers/dealers of Shineray. I also liked the look of their enduro, but I don't think they import that model anymore, and they seem to just concentrate on their gray-market Lifan enduros. If you go to Shineray's site, they are one of the only, if not only, Chinese manufacturers to sponsor an MX team. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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01-26-2007, 09:27 PM	#3
skyscooter Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	you said you were 6 foot right. i would like to know how they size up for you, i'm also 6' and 200lbs. i was thinking it would be a nice bike if it were about the same size as a crf230 or ttr230. how was t-motorsports to work with.
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01-27-2007, 05:21 PM	#7
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	Well, been riding the crap outta it all day with no issues to report. No loosening fasteners, no stalls, no hiccups whatsoever. The motor is well broken in now and the oil is now clean as a whistle. The bike looks to be a carbon copy of a DB 27. The bike has plenty of power and climbs like a goat. I haven't GPS'd the top speed yet. Been a a bit of a wuss and afraid to turn it loose. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-27-2007, 05:25 PM	#8
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	It is worth noting that the California bikes (at least mine anyway) have an EGR system and PCV valve and vent to the air box. I think I will make these puppies go away. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-27-2007, 11:03 PM	#10
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	[quote="liverchip"] The bike looks to be a carbon copy of a DB 27. quote] I had corresponded with a rep from Shineray a few months back. He told me that they OEM'd for a few companies; BMX (I have seen them on Ebay, that's about it) and Terminator (aka-Roketa), hence the resemblance to the DB 27. I don't think they manufacture all of Roketa's line, but a few of them, and this is probably one of them. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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01-28-2007, 12:15 AM	#11
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	OK, just awaiting approval of my registration in order to post photos within the gallery. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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01-28-2007, 09:41 PM	#12
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	The first photos have been posted. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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