2024 RPS Hawk S

[culcune]

The very top of the updated EPA list for street legal motorcycles lists a model certified as the Hawk X, and it is a carburetor model. It seems to be RPS finally have certified the 'standard' Hawk as a street-legal bike vs. all the years it has technically been an 'Off-highway dirtbike'. I did not see a listing for the DLX fuel-injected model, but the list is early, and will be added to over the next several months as bikes get approved.

[Megadan]

Just the regular Hawk with a few tweaks, but instead of.the cg250 it looks like they are changing to a 223cc CB250 engine with the 65.5mm bore and 66.2mm stroke. Still a 5 speed, unfortunately.

https://www.rickypowersports.net/xhawk-250

[JerryHawk250]

I saw that. Still only a 5 speed. Baby steps I guess. lol California still need not apply.

[Okierider]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I saw that. Still only a 5 speed. Baby steps I guess. lol California still need not apply.

The only thing California should apply for is euthanasia.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I saw that. Still only a 5 speed. Baby steps I guess. lol California still need not apply.

I honestly would have traded out my Hawk for an X version if they would have at least come with the RE250 engine with the 6 speed and gear driven counter balancer. That would be the best possible upgrade, even if the rest of the bike was more or less the same.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Just the regular Hawk with a few tweaks, but instead of.the cg250 it looks like they are changing to a 223cc CB250 engine with the 65.5mm bore and 66.2mm stroke. Still a 5 speed, unfortunately.

https://www.rickypowersports.net/xhawk-250

Thanks for the link! I completely agree with you on the fine points as the bike should have been upgraded, but that could be forgiven if the price point still makes it a great deal, but more importantly, they FINALLY put it in the same class of bike as other 49 street legal bikes (although a few states seem to ALSO reject bikes that are not California CARB certified). But, for the most part, there shouldn't be the registration hassles that plagued the regular Hawk in many states for years. But, again, this will depend on its price. Considering the 49 state street legal Hawk DLX is still around $2k, the Hawk X should still be the deal that it has been for several years now.

[Dusman]

Can anyone tell if this new Hawk X still has the kickstart? One of the reasons I love these CG motors is that they still have a kickstart.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Dusman

Can anyone tell if this new Hawk X still has the kickstart? One of the reasons I love these CG motors is that they still have a kickstart.

Of course they only show the left side in the pictures...

[zero_dgz]

Originally Posted by Dusman

Can anyone tell if this new Hawk X still has the kickstart? One of the reasons I love these CG motors is that they still have a kickstart.

It "probably" will, since most of the 5 speed CB clone engines retain the kick starter. The 6 speed ones eliminate it to add the extra gear, possibly due to case width clearance issues.


But we won't know for sure until we see it. There are totally side covers out there for the 5 speed CB motors that lack the kick start hole.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by zero_dgz

It "probably" will, since most of the 5 speed CB clone engines retain the kick starter.

I don't seem them going through the motion to change much from the formerly 'Off-road only' version to a 'On-highway motorcycle' version, but they did not post a photo of the left side to know for sure (not that pre-release pictures are always 100% of the model coming).

[Bill Hilly]

How many HP, and how much torque and at what RPM do the new CB style engines make as compared to the CG. I assume they run more RPM, and naturally make peak power at higher RPM, but is it at any sacrifice to low rpm power?

[BartlettMagic]

hi all, brand new to ChinaRiders. just got my RPS Hawk-X a month ago, been slowly learning and working on it.

first off, yes, the 2024 RPS Hawk-X does have a kickstart.

secondly, the 'improvements' to DOT spec don't matter here in PA- i'm still waiting for PENNDOT to approve my title/plate. i was told 4-6 weeks for them to verify the VIN.

i'll be happy to answer any questions about the new model, if i can. i'm still new to all of this, so i probably won't know anything about specs or complex topics.

i came here to ask: what's the consensus on valve clearances? i'm getting ready to do some routine stuff, and wanted to check that. does the fact that the engine is now counterbalanced matter at all? i've got a 24mm Nibbi on it, if that matters. other forum posts seem to range around .002I & .003O, up to .005 for both. as you can see above, the specs listed in the manual don't have valve clearances.

[Bill Hilly]

I think that even though the Hawk X is a 223 , it's still a pushrod motor. I know they are counter balanced, but I think they are still a CG

[ProDigit]

Originally Posted by culcune

Thanks for the link! I completely agree with you on the fine points as the bike should have been upgraded, but that could be forgiven if the price point still makes it a great deal, but more importantly, they FINALLY put it in the same class of bike as other 49 street legal bikes (although a few states seem to ALSO reject bikes that are not California CARB certified). But, for the most part, there shouldn't be the registration hassles that plagued the regular Hawk in many states for years. But, again, this will depend on its price. Considering the 49 state street legal Hawk DLX is still around $2k, the Hawk X should still be the deal that it has been for several years now.

Would the templar be a closer match to what you want?

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by ProDigit

Would the templar be a closer match to what you want?

Hawk is a dual sport. The Templar is an enduro... long flat seat, taller. It is a different type of bike.

Templar base model would be the direct competitor price-wise. In fact, now I think it is lower priced. Temp M would upgrade to a true enduro frame, with all of the upgrades to SS components and bear claw footpegs, adjustable levers, etc. It is now almost the same price as the Hawk X. But it is an enduro.