Hi-Bird QH-250II-A 250cc

TJinPgh · 10-15-2007, 02:02 AM

Anybody know anything about these bikes? Seen one? Have one? Know of another comapny that sells the same bike under another name?

Hi-Bird QH-250II-A $1299.99 (shipping included) on Ebay

RIDER CAPACITY 1 Person
WEIGHT CAPACITY
330LBS

TRANSMISSION SYSTEM
5 Speed Hand Clutch

STARTER
Electric and Kick Start

IGNITION
C.D.I.

MAX. SPEED
60+ MPH

FUEL TANK CAPACITY
3.6 GALLONS

FRONT TIRES SIZE (ATV's)
2.75-18

REAR TIRES SIZE (ATV's)
3.25-18

BRAKE
Front-Disc and Rear-Drum

BRAKE OPERATION MODE Front: Hand Rear: Foot
FRONT SUSPENSION
Twin Hydraulic forks

REAR SUSPENSION Mono Shock with damper control
CYLINDER ARRANGEMENT
Single Cylinder

ENGINE
Single Cylinder

ENGINE COOLING
Air-Cooled

HORSEPOWER
20 HP

DISPLACEMENT
250 cc

DIMENSION (L x W x H)
81.5" x 28.7'' x 42.1"

GROUND CLEARANCE
8"

SEAT HEIGHT
30.5"

FOOTPEG TO SEAT HEIGHT
20"

frostbite · 10-15-2007, 08:08 AM

Interesting, if the rider capacity is '1 person' why the passenger pegs and the 2up seat?

TJinPgh · 10-15-2007, 11:42 AM

yeah, I saw that.

There are two different sellers on Ebay that have the bike. One says 1 rider, the other doesn't. The one that didn't had a few different quirks, though.

At any rate, Hi-Bird doesn't seem to have a website of it's own (or, at least nothing I could find through a Google search, anyway) so I couldn't find out anything else about them.

Haven't seen the same bike with any other name on them (Roketa, etc) either.

The bike looks like it could be a Honda Nighthawk clone. Lines are similar. Even the seat lines are nearly identical. The only difference would be that the Hi-Bird has a front disc brake. The U.S. Nighthawk had dual drums.

At any rate, very nice looking bike. Would like to get a look at one up close.

culcune · 10-15-2007, 01:54 PM

Try www.hbmusa.us but I don't think they have updated their website to reflect this bike or their new 250 enduro.

liverchip · 10-15-2007, 02:42 PM

Hmmm the specs say single cylinder, yet I seem to see a second pipe exiting the head on the other side of the bike....interesting.

TJinPgh · 10-16-2007, 12:55 AM

There are now a few others like this popping up on Ebay.

They are apparently being marketed under the brand names Hi-Bird and Ciello. They all have variations on what they are claiming about the bike with respect to thinks like fuel economy and top speed, but that's typical of Ebay listings.

They're all pretty consistent about the single cylinder, despite the fact that they DO have pipes on both sides. I'm guessing it just splits off at the header into two pipes. Not sure if it serves any purpose other than to probably mimic the dual pipes of the Nighthawks.

At any rate, I've gotta admit, that bike is pretty sweet looking in blue or yellow...

dingerjunkie · 10-16-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by liverchip

Hmmm the specs say single cylinder, yet I seem to see a second pipe exiting the head on the other side of the bike....interesting.

This is/was very common with Honda "radial" RFVC heads. Dual exhaust valves leading to dual exhaust ports leading to two smaller headers. This would indicate that the motor is at least a three-valve, if not a four-valve head.

Interesting...wouldn't make sense to split an exhaust port off of a single exhaust valve.

xt477 · 10-19-2007, 05:50 PM

CAUTION!!! Luckyseven is MOTOREXTREMES

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=1907

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=1742

http://blogs.ebay.com/ddon359/entry/...QQidZ164473019

They fired thier old office manager and changed thier name on ebay AND somehow cleared thier BBB name too!

culcune · 10-19-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xt477

http://blogs.ebay.com/ddon359/entry/...QQidZ164473019

They fired thier old office manager and changed thier name on ebay AND somehow cleared thier BBB name too!

Wow, I looked over this guy's (ddon-Motorextreme's customer)blog, and then went to his "negative" feedback from Motorextreme who stated they "oversold a bike and tried to get him a new one" or something very similar and left their customer a negative! How do you put up an auction for a product you don't have?

kens97sto171 · 11-01-2007, 11:07 PM

I have seen several single cyl bikes set up this way. The thing that interests me is that the engine looks just like the 200 that is in my Roketa dual sport. They could easily be a bored and stroked 200, then put a differnt head on it.

There have been many people looking for a "big bore kit" for the 200's This might be an option for them... although it could be to costly to be worth it.

Ken

Republic · 09-15-2016, 08:07 AM

I found one of these for sale, any idea where to get parts? Are they Suzuki clones?

humanbeing · 09-15-2016, 08:41 AM

ANY pic?
Are u talking this http://www.unmoto.com/file/html/52/3589.html

Powered by "fake-twin" CB250 [69 bore is similar to http://www.zse.cc/productsdetail.asp...=370&CateID=46]
Rest: Similar to some 125 here & there https://www.impex-jp.com/catalogs/mo.../11kc1fj7.html (wheels) ...

Merlin · 09-15-2016, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing

ANY pic?
Are u talking this http://www.unmoto.com/file/html/52/3589.html

Powered by "fake-twin" CB250 [69 bore is similar to http://www.zse.cc/productsdetail.asp...=370&CateID=46]
Rest: Similar to some 125 here & there https://www.impex-jp.com/catalogs/mo.../11kc1fj7.html (wheels) ...

The link is infected.

Republic · 09-15-2016, 10:09 AM

Yes that is it exactly

pwbii · 05-23-2024, 10:21 AM

I know this is an old thread, but it needs reviving since there still is no solid info for these machines. I have found out though that these are assembled by a number of Chinese companies of different names from loose parts & sold direct to consumers. The parent company seems to be Hi-Bird. I am trying to repair a Komoto named Scooter / Motorcycle, model QH-250II-A. I am looking for body parts for it, namely the battery box. It comes under the GY6 title of applications which covers 50cc through 250cc engines. I have found that the Honda service manual for the CN250 will give all the tech info for this engine that you will need. I found this for free online as a PDF.

10-15-2007, 02:02 AM	#1
TJinPgh Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	Hi-Bird QH-250II-A 250cc Anybody know anything about these bikes? Seen one? Have one? Know of another comapny that sells the same bike under another name? Hi-Bird QH-250II-A $1299.99 (shipping included) on Ebay RIDER CAPACITY 1 Person WEIGHT CAPACITY 330LBS TRANSMISSION SYSTEM 5 Speed Hand Clutch STARTER Electric and Kick Start IGNITION C.D.I. MAX. SPEED 60+ MPH FUEL TANK CAPACITY 3.6 GALLONS FRONT TIRES SIZE (ATV's) 2.75-18 REAR TIRES SIZE (ATV's) 3.25-18 BRAKE Front-Disc and Rear-Drum BRAKE OPERATION MODE Front: Hand Rear: Foot FRONT SUSPENSION Twin Hydraulic forks REAR SUSPENSION Mono Shock with damper control CYLINDER ARRANGEMENT Single Cylinder ENGINE Single Cylinder ENGINE COOLING Air-Cooled HORSEPOWER 20 HP DISPLACEMENT 250 cc DIMENSION (L x W x H) 81.5" x 28.7'' x 42.1" GROUND CLEARANCE 8" SEAT HEIGHT 30.5" FOOTPEG TO SEAT HEIGHT 20"
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culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Try www.hbmusa.us but I don't think they have updated their website to reflect this bike or their new 250 enduro. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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11-01-2007, 11:07 PM	#10
kens97sto171 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 193	250 street bike I have seen several single cyl bikes set up this way. The thing that interests me is that the engine looks just like the 200 that is in my Roketa dual sport. They could easily be a bored and stroked 200, then put a differnt head on it. There have been many people looking for a "big bore kit" for the 200's This might be an option for them... although it could be to costly to be worth it. Ken
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10-15-2007, 11:42 AM	#3
TJinPgh Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	yeah, I saw that. There are two different sellers on Ebay that have the bike. One says 1 rider, the other doesn't. The one that didn't had a few different quirks, though. At any rate, Hi-Bird doesn't seem to have a website of it's own (or, at least nothing I could find through a Google search, anyway) so I couldn't find out anything else about them. Haven't seen the same bike with any other name on them (Roketa, etc) either. The bike looks like it could be a Honda Nighthawk clone. Lines are similar. Even the seat lines are nearly identical. The only difference would be that the Hi-Bird has a front disc brake. The U.S. Nighthawk had dual drums. At any rate, very nice looking bike. Would like to get a look at one up close.
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10-16-2007, 12:55 AM	#6
TJinPgh Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6	There are now a few others like this popping up on Ebay. They are apparently being marketed under the brand names Hi-Bird and Ciello. They all have variations on what they are claiming about the bike with respect to thinks like fuel economy and top speed, but that's typical of Ebay listings. They're all pretty consistent about the single cylinder, despite the fact that they DO have pipes on both sides. I'm guessing it just splits off at the header into two pipes. Not sure if it serves any purpose other than to probably mimic the dual pipes of the Nighthawks. At any rate, I've gotta admit, that bike is pretty sweet looking in blue or yellow...
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10-19-2007, 05:50 PM	#8
xt477 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 16	CAUTION!!! Luckyseven is MOTOREXTREMES http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=1907 http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=1742 http://blogs.ebay.com/ddon359/entry/...QQidZ164473019 They fired thier old office manager and changed thier name on ebay AND somehow cleared thier BBB name too!
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09-15-2016, 08:07 AM	#11
Republic Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 118	I found one of these for sale, any idea where to get parts? Are they Suzuki clones?
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09-15-2016, 08:41 AM	#12
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	ANY pic? Are u talking this http://www.unmoto.com/file/html/52/3589.html Powered by "fake-twin" CB250 [69 bore is similar to http://www.zse.cc/productsdetail.asp...=370&CateID=46] Rest: Similar to some 125 here & there https://www.impex-jp.com/catalogs/mo.../11kc1fj7.html (wheels) ... __________________
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09-15-2016, 10:09 AM	#14
Republic Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 118	Yes that is it exactly
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05-23-2024, 10:21 AM	#15
pwbii Join Date: May 2024 Location: Central New York State, USA Posts: 1	I know this is an old thread, but it needs reviving since there still is no solid info for these machines. I have found out though that these are assembled by a number of Chinese companies of different names from loose parts & sold direct to consumers. The parent company seems to be Hi-Bird. I am trying to repair a Komoto named Scooter / Motorcycle, model QH-250II-A. I am looking for body parts for it, namely the battery box. It comes under the GY6 title of applications which covers 50cc through 250cc engines. I have found that the Honda service manual for the CN250 will give all the tech info for this engine that you will need. I found this for free online as a PDF.
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