on/off Rat build (with apologies to Doc's dirt rat LOL) - Page 9

Weldangrind · 05-02-2012, 01:26 PM

Glad to hear it passed! Did they enquire about the China motor?

gloud · 05-02-2012, 01:51 PM

Not a peep. They where amazed at how clean it was. I told them thanks and I had been busy all winter on it. (well the last 3 months. ) I looks so factory why should I tell them otherwise. (this is the Best swap I have done in the many I have hacked together. )

I guess I got something out of watching American chopper before they pulled all the drama crap. (the full build, (I added test ride in here)tear down for paint and then final assembly. I just used to cram the motors in and say good enough LOL)

I am getting used to the High first gear (the only thing I wasn't keen on) so I don't think I will swap back to the 38 tooth rear like I was thinking. It cruses so smoothly at 50 it isn't funny. Had a nice (overcast) ride into work this am.

One mod I am going to do is raise the bars and I have to paint the instrument cluster. (the silver is blinding ) I am going to add a 12v electrical connecter to the dash while I have it apart. (for GPS /Cell charging etc.)

Weldangrind · 05-03-2012, 12:48 AM

I bought two early seasons of American Chopper for that very reason. They still had drama, but it wasn't central to the format. I learned a lot from the process. My favourite build is the Dixie Chopper.

That says a bunch about me right there.

How do you intend to raise the bars?

gloud · 05-03-2012, 10:20 AM

Raising the bars- I was looking at using a spare set of clamps flipped over and then using longer bolts. But I am not sure if it will get them high enough.
it is supposed to be rainy on sat so I may play around then. worse comes to worse I play with the mill. I am reaching forward a little right now and that is not good for my back or shoulder.

I need to paint the instrument plate anyway. so the whole mess is coming off this weekend.

Weldangrind · 05-03-2012, 12:33 PM

I found some cheap ATV high bend aluminum bars for my TW, and that did the trick for me. Perhaps that would be a solution for you as well. The aluminum bars really cut down on vibration.

Weldangrind · 05-03-2012, 12:33 PM

Don't let me stop you from playing with the mill, though.

If you do, please share the process.

gloud · 05-03-2012, 02:32 PM

Ah I like the original chrome bars I have but yes the atv high bars are an option. the only fly in the ointment is my NOS OEM front brake cable which is rather tight already. I will have to look into that before I raise them.

Weldangrind · 05-04-2012, 12:55 AM

I re-routed a front brake cable for that reason, but I didn't have a headlight in the way. BTW, have you considered a disc brake front end? I installed an '84 XR250R front end onto Son of Weldangrind's '83 XR200R, and it was a perfect fit. The disc brakes are much better than the original drum brakes.

gloud · 05-04-2012, 05:59 AM

Yes it will have a disc brake eventually. I did a conversion back in the day with my trials bike with stock forks. With the tools I have now it should be easier.

Weldangrind · 05-04-2012, 10:32 AM

So, you intend to convert the exisiting front end, rather than swap the entire setup?

gloud · 05-04-2012, 07:15 PM

Well I am trying to find some straight fork tubes before I do it. the ones I have are tweaked and my parts bikes ones are rusted. I have a line on some MT125 ones (same tubes and leading axle) and I may try doing a conversion on them. The stock forks are so low I really need to unless I raise the rear too, which I am afraid would kill the on-road handling.

(other than good sized holes it really is a nice little road rider. Offroad It is Harsh the rear is ok)

Took a nice ride this afternoon as I had the day off and it was just a really nice ride. lots of twistys and hills and the engine just Purred along.

Weldangrind · 05-05-2012, 01:22 AM

Maybe you can look to other makes / models for a disc brake front end. Perhaps something that has the same diameter and length fork tubes, so you can re-use the stock triples.

Weldangrind · 05-07-2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloud

As to the stator no pics as I have not cracked this engine at all. (surprising for me LOL) I will take a pic of the connector tonight for you.

Have you had an opportunity to look at the connector yet? No rush, but if you've taken pics, I'd be grateful.

gloud · 05-08-2012, 09:09 AM

Sorry about the delay I got real busy this weekend. I will do it tonight. you need pics of the connector and the color of wires correct?Â

Weldangrind · 05-08-2012, 01:04 PM

That's right; yes please.

05-02-2012, 01:26 PM	#121
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Glad to hear it passed! Did they enquire about the China motor? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-03-2012, 12:48 AM	#123
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I bought two early seasons of American Chopper for that very reason. They still had drama, but it wasn't central to the format. I learned a lot from the process. My favourite build is the Dixie Chopper. That says a bunch about me right there. How do you intend to raise the bars? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-03-2012, 12:33 PM	#125
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I found some cheap ATV high bend aluminum bars for my TW, and that did the trick for me. Perhaps that would be a solution for you as well. The aluminum bars really cut down on vibration. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-03-2012, 12:33 PM	#126
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Don't let me stop you from playing with the mill, though. If you do, please share the process. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-04-2012, 12:55 AM	#128
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I re-routed a front brake cable for that reason, but I didn't have a headlight in the way. BTW, have you considered a disc brake front end? I installed an '84 XR250R front end onto Son of Weldangrind's '83 XR200R, and it was a perfect fit. The disc brakes are much better than the original drum brakes. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-02-2012, 01:51 PM	#122
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Not a peep. They where amazed at how clean it was. I told them thanks and I had been busy all winter on it. (well the last 3 months. ) I looks so factory why should I tell them otherwise. (this is the Best swap I have done in the many I have hacked together. ) I guess I got something out of watching American chopper before they pulled all the drama crap. (the full build, (I added test ride in here)tear down for paint and then final assembly. I just used to cram the motors in and say good enough LOL) I am getting used to the High first gear (the only thing I wasn't keen on) so I don't think I will swap back to the 38 tooth rear like I was thinking. It cruses so smoothly at 50 it isn't funny. Had a nice (overcast) ride into work this am. One mod I am going to do is raise the bars and I have to paint the instrument cluster. (the silver is blinding ) I am going to add a 12v electrical connecter to the dash while I have it apart. (for GPS /Cell charging etc.)
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05-03-2012, 10:20 AM	#124
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Raising the bars- I was looking at using a spare set of clamps flipped over and then using longer bolts. But I am not sure if it will get them high enough. it is supposed to be rainy on sat so I may play around then. worse comes to worse I play with the mill. I am reaching forward a little right now and that is not good for my back or shoulder. I need to paint the instrument plate anyway. so the whole mess is coming off this weekend.
	0

05-03-2012, 02:32 PM	#127
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Ah I like the original chrome bars I have but yes the atv high bars are an option. the only fly in the ointment is my NOS OEM front brake cable which is rather tight already. I will have to look into that before I raise them.
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05-04-2012, 05:59 AM	#129
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Yes it will have a disc brake eventually. I did a conversion back in the day with my trials bike with stock forks. With the tools I have now it should be easier.
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05-04-2012, 10:32 AM	#130
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	So, you intend to convert the exisiting front end, rather than swap the entire setup? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
	0

05-04-2012, 07:15 PM	#131
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Well I am trying to find some straight fork tubes before I do it. the ones I have are tweaked and my parts bikes ones are rusted. I have a line on some MT125 ones (same tubes and leading axle) and I may try doing a conversion on them. The stock forks are so low I really need to unless I raise the rear too, which I am afraid would kill the on-road handling. (other than good sized holes it really is a nice little road rider. Offroad It is Harsh the rear is ok) Took a nice ride this afternoon as I had the day off and it was just a really nice ride. lots of twistys and hills and the engine just Purred along.
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05-05-2012, 01:22 AM	#132
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Maybe you can look to other makes / models for a disc brake front end. Perhaps something that has the same diameter and length fork tubes, so you can re-use the stock triples. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-08-2012, 09:09 AM	#134
gloud Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Westhampton Mass USA Posts: 155	Sorry about the delay I got real busy this weekend. I will do it tonight. you need pics of the connector and the color of wires correct?Â
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05-08-2012, 01:04 PM	#135
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's right; yes please. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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