$5895 for RX4 - Page 7

1cylinderwonder · 10-02-2019, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pyoungbl

I disagree. Even when you figure in the total charges to get the bike to my house ($6195) it's still competitive once you consider the specs and the stuff that is included. Granted the RX4 is not quite the screaming deal as the first shipment of RX3 was but it's still not shabby.

CHECK IT OUT!

If you live and purchase this bike, RX4, in California, it will cost the buyer over $6400.00! That’s quite expensive for a China Bike! The cost is greater than $1000.00 over this MSRP of $5395.00. Very comparable to purchasing a Japanese or European motorcycle!

2LZ · 10-02-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder

CHECK IT OUT!

If you live and purchase this bike, RX4, in California, it will cost the buyer over $6400.00! That’s quite expensive for a China Bike! The cost is greater than $1000.00 over this MSRP of $5395.00. Very comparable to purchasing a Japanese or European motorcycle!

Got it. You don't want to buy one and you think it's a roast. I think we all understand.

wheelbender6 · 10-01-2019, 09:58 PM

You will know the OTD total price when you order from CSC. If you buy a DR650 or KLR from a dealer, they cannot tell you the OTD price until you drive it away.

calvarez · 10-02-2019, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wheelbender6

You will know the OTD total price when you order from CSC. If you buy a DR650 or KLR from a dealer, they cannot tell you the OTD price until you drive it away.

That is incredibly SHADY. Every dealer can and should give an OTD price before you show up. Are you excusing dealers' bad behavior or work at a dealer that does this?

Math Teacher · 10-03-2019, 12:30 PM

We have all known the price for some months now. We had plenty of time to debate if it is a good deal or not. (It is a good deal what you get for the money. Not a smoking great deal like the first shipment of RX3, but still a really good deal).

Now is the time for us to hear from people who actually have one and can give some real life experiences with their RX4. Mine handles great on the road, has decent power, and carries it weight well. My only dig now is the kickstand is too short and the bike leans like crazy on it. The aftermarket foot for the RX3 does not fit the kickstand for the RX4. I cobbled together something that adds about a half inch to the kickstand and now am much happier.

rjmorel · 10-03-2019, 07:14 PM

I'm wondering if the RX4 should have it's own subforum separate from the RX3 just to make finding things on the RX4 easier? What say you guys? rj

Working_ZS · 10-04-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel

I'm wondering if the RX4 should have it's own subforum separate from the RX3 just to make finding things on the RX4 easier? What say you guys? rj

I agree, especially now that the bike is actually shipping out to owners.

calvarez · 10-04-2019, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel

I'm wondering if the RX4 should have it's own subforum separate from the RX3 just to make finding things on the RX4 easier? What say you guys? rj

I would suggest simply renaming this forum to include both. We have little traffic as it is, and the bikes have so much in common.

nuts4mc · 10-03-2019, 08:45 PM

need a RX4 forum!!

1cylinderwonder · 10-03-2019, 11:30 PM

The Z400 has a 399cc parallel twin engine (smoother than an RX4) vs 450cc

, more horsepower than an RX4 (46.7 vs 40.2)

, weighs less than an RX4 (362 vs 450)

, faster acceleration than an RX4

,costs less than a RX4 ($4799 vs $5395)

and in my opinion better looking than a RX4!

And the kickstand on the Z400 keeps the bike more upright than the kickstand on the RX4. The Z400 has better L.E.D. headlight, stoplight and turn-signal lights.
The Z400 is a much better purchase than a RX4! Less costly but more performance!

PCG

Working_ZS · 10-04-2019, 12:10 PM

You forgot to mention that the Z400 also has no crash protection, either OEM or aftermarket; no provision for luggage (no, backpacks aren't luggage); no weather protection ( I guess the Z400 rider could try to use an umbrella - good luck with that); no available wire wheels for off road riding; no OEM built in electrical accessory circuits. The Z400 also has no dual floating disc, radially mounted caliper front brakes; the Z400 does have plain old front forks, while the RX4 has adjustable inverted front forks. The Z400 has a small 3.7 gallon gas tank, the RX4 has a 5.3 gallon tank. The Z400 comes with a 12 month limited warranty, while the RX4 has a 24 month unlimited warranty.

I guess it's true what they say - "You get what you pay for." For the added features that the RX4 brings to the table, I'll gladly pay the extra $600 every time. As to your opinion of it's looks, well, like the saying goes - "Opinions are like a******s, everyone has one." You're certainly entitled to yours, even though it's wrong.

(Don't feel bad, it happens to the best of us!) Having said all that, the Z400 is a nice scoot; and if Kawasaki ever sees fit to put their 400 cc engine in an ADV chassis, I'll certainly give it a look. But right now, comparing the Z400 to the RX4 is like comparing a claw hammer to a sledge hammer - they'll both drive a nail, but one will do a hell of a lot more in addition than the other.

Math Teacher · 10-04-2019, 12:26 PM

The Z400 is a nice bike. I would be happy to have one. However, when you add the dealer jerk off fee of $1000 (that CSC does not have) it ends up being the same price.
OK for the same price I can have a name brand Kawasaki or Chinese. I get it. Even if the price is equal, the bikes are not.
For the same price CSC RX4 has a bigger gas tank for almost 100 miles more range.
A big wind shield. A tiny $75 option is available for the Kawasaki. The CSC has a 300 watt alternator for your accessories. The CSC RX4 has a better warranty. The RX4 comes with the engine crash guards. The RX4 has options for luggage. Most importantly, the CSC has a 19 inch front wheel.
If you like the stuff I listed get the CSC. If you like the brand Kawasaki get it for the same out the door price. Both are good choices for different reasons.

1cylinderwonder · 10-05-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Math Teacher

The Z400 is a nice bike. I would be happy to have one. However, when you add the dealer jerk off fee of $1000 (that CSC does not have) it ends up being the same price.

When I purchased my Z400 I received a U.S. Army veteran discount and a Rebate from Kawasaki, No “jerk off fee”! So my sales price for the Z was cheaper than the RX4, (Mr. Math, you’d better do the Math!), plus the twin cylinder is a lot smoother running than the single piston, unless you like vibrations.
“But to each their own”
Good Luck.

PCG

2LZ · 10-04-2019, 08:33 PM

Apples and oranges, isn't it? The Z400 is purely street, isn't it? Now if they had a Versys 400....

wheelbender6 · 10-07-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Apples and oranges, isn't it? The Z400 is purely street, isn't it? Now if they had a Versys 400....

The Versus 300 has pretty much the same MSRP as the RX4. Your friendly Kawasaki dealer may really tack on a lot of extra costs, depending on where you live. I'm just more of a thumper fan.

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wheelbender6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,902	You will know the OTD total price when you order from CSC. If you buy a DR650 or KLR from a dealer, they cannot tell you the OTD price until you drive it away. __________________ "Its not WHAT you ride; its THAT you ride"
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rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	I'm wondering if the RX4 should have it's own subforum separate from the RX3 just to make finding things on the RX4 easier? What say you guys? rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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10-03-2019, 11:30 PM	#10
1cylinderwonder Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pismo Beach Posts: 387	Zongshen RX4 compared to the Kawasaki Z400 The Z400 has a 399cc parallel twin engine (smoother than an RX4) vs 450cc , more horsepower than an RX4 (46.7 vs 40.2) , weighs less than an RX4 (362 vs 450) , faster acceleration than an RX4 ,costs less than a RX4 ($4799 vs $5395) and in my opinion better looking than a RX4! And the kickstand on the Z400 keeps the bike more upright than the kickstand on the RX4. The Z400 has better L.E.D. headlight, stoplight and turn-signal lights. The Z400 is a much better purchase than a RX4! Less costly but more performance! PCG
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10-04-2019, 12:10 PM	#11
Working_ZS Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 365	Try Harder You forgot to mention that the Z400 also has no crash protection, either OEM or aftermarket; no provision for luggage (no, backpacks aren't luggage); no weather protection ( I guess the Z400 rider could try to use an umbrella - good luck with that); no available wire wheels for off road riding; no OEM built in electrical accessory circuits. The Z400 also has no dual floating disc, radially mounted caliper front brakes; the Z400 does have plain old front forks, while the RX4 has adjustable inverted front forks. The Z400 has a small 3.7 gallon gas tank, the RX4 has a 5.3 gallon tank. The Z400 comes with a 12 month limited warranty, while the RX4 has a 24 month unlimited warranty. I guess it's true what they say - "You get what you pay for." For the added features that the RX4 brings to the table, I'll gladly pay the extra $600 every time. As to your opinion of it's looks, well, like the saying goes - "Opinions are like a******s, everyone has one." You're certainly entitled to yours, even though it's wrong. (Don't feel bad, it happens to the best of us!) Having said all that, the Z400 is a nice scoot; and if Kawasaki ever sees fit to put their 400 cc engine in an ADV chassis, I'll certainly give it a look. But right now, comparing the Z400 to the RX4 is like comparing a claw hammer to a sledge hammer - they'll both drive a nail, but one will do a hell of a lot more in addition than the other.
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2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,105	Apples and oranges, isn't it? The Z400 is purely street, isn't it? Now if they had a Versys 400.... __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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Math Teacher Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 47	We have all known the price for some months now. We had plenty of time to debate if it is a good deal or not. (It is a good deal what you get for the money. Not a smoking great deal like the first shipment of RX3, but still a really good deal). Now is the time for us to hear from people who actually have one and can give some real life experiences with their RX4. Mine handles great on the road, has decent power, and carries it weight well. My only dig now is the kickstand is too short and the bike leans like crazy on it. The aftermarket foot for the RX3 does not fit the kickstand for the RX4. I cobbled together something that adds about a half inch to the kickstand and now am much happier.
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nuts4mc Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 4	need a RX4 forum!!
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10-04-2019, 12:26 PM	#12
Math Teacher Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 47	The Z400 is a nice bike. I would be happy to have one. However, when you add the dealer jerk off fee of $1000 (that CSC does not have) it ends up being the same price. OK for the same price I can have a name brand Kawasaki or Chinese. I get it. Even if the price is equal, the bikes are not. For the same price CSC RX4 has a bigger gas tank for almost 100 miles more range. A big wind shield. A tiny $75 option is available for the Kawasaki. The CSC has a 300 watt alternator for your accessories. The CSC RX4 has a better warranty. The RX4 comes with the engine crash guards. The RX4 has options for luggage. Most importantly, the CSC has a 19 inch front wheel. If you like the stuff I listed get the CSC. If you like the brand Kawasaki get it for the same out the door price. Both are good choices for different reasons.
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