Qlink XF200 Shifts Horribly - Page 7

The Thinker · 05-19-2015, 11:27 PM

Alright, so I have been riding the bike quite a bit and it has been doing well, but today I was out riding and out of nowhere the engagement point of the clutch changed. Usually the clutch engages slowly and can be released with a good controlled feeling in the hand, but when I was out today it changed to a small amount of engagement then all of a sudden engages the full way.

So if I were to translate the engagement into numbers, 1 being disengaged and 10 being fully engaged, it used to go 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10, but now when I ride it goes 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-8-9-10 if that makes any sense. In order to take off from stoplights on my way home I had to do an awful lot of slipping to get the bike to take off without stalling, and the shifter is no longer a nice click. It feels more like I am forcing the shifter to do what I want.

SpudRider · 05-19-2015, 11:47 PM

I strongly suggest you quickly check to see if the clutch cable is frayed.

The Thinker · 05-20-2015, 08:38 PM

I checked it out and it has no damage anywhere. Nothing feels like it is catching or snagging, its just the change in how the bike is responding. It also seems to get worse as the engine warms up.

Weldangrind · 05-21-2015, 12:54 AM

Have you lubricated the cable?

The Thinker · 05-21-2015, 01:51 AM

One of the first things I do after working on my bike is put a couple drops of 3 in 1 down each cable on the bike. I am going to do a bit more riding tomorrow and see the condition of the clutch changes for better or for worse, then will report back with my findings.

humanbeing · 05-21-2015, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Thinker

... couple drops of 3 in 1 ...

The stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_lubricant used in lock (attracts less dust/ dirt ...) are more practical. Ancient recipe: graphite powder mixed w/ kerosene...

JTHSPACE · 05-21-2015, 06:05 AM

I was discouraged some years ago of oiling cables as many had gone to a nylon (or similar) liner and the oil damaged the liner, causing cable grabs.

Weldangrind · 05-21-2015, 10:57 AM

I only use Maxima Chain Wax on cables. Good stuff.

The Thinker · 06-09-2015, 10:27 PM

Hey everyone, just stopping in to report. Today I tested out a 2011 CBR250R to see whats up, and of course loved it (however I don't think I will be able to leave the dual sport community) and when I got home and rode my bike, I noticed how much worse it shifts again. I know the honda is going to shift smoother regardless, but mine just feels like you need to put a bit too much effort into shifting it. I don't know whats up with my bike, maybe it's just made like this?

My friend is getting his moto license soon and wants to buy my bike, and I will get something else, but I don't want to sell him a first bike that doesn't work properly.

Weldangrind · 06-10-2015, 10:40 AM

Before you make another adjustment, I recommend that you move your shifter down by one spline. See if that makes any difference.

The Thinker · 06-10-2015, 10:40 PM

I will do this right now, however wont be able to test till tomorrow. Just curious, what makes you think this will fix the issue?

Weldangrind · 06-11-2015, 01:04 AM

If your shifter is too high, it's difficult to upshift.

The Thinker · 06-11-2015, 05:19 PM

I changed it, no improvement. It's something internal that isn't working as smoothly as it should be. I just had the whole thing apart though so I don't know whats going on.

Weldangrind · 06-12-2015, 12:26 AM

It was worth a shot.

The Thinker · 06-12-2015, 02:15 AM

I think I am just going to try to sell this thing for as much as I can get and be done with it. Maybe move to an RX3 or Japanese bike...

05-19-2015, 11:47 PM	#92
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I strongly suggest you quickly check to see if the clutch cable is frayed. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-21-2015, 12:54 AM	#94
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Have you lubricated the cable? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-21-2015, 06:05 AM	#97
JTHSPACE Join Date: May 2015 Location: Cambridge, England Posts: 140	I was discouraged some years ago of oiling cables as many had gone to a nylon (or similar) liner and the oil damaged the liner, causing cable grabs. __________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Riding bikes for over 40 years Honda C50 / SS50 / CB125 / CB250 Velocettes (various) Piaggio's / Honda's / Yamaha's Raptor . . . . the List Goes On . . . .
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05-21-2015, 10:57 AM	#98
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I only use Maxima Chain Wax on cables. Good stuff. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-10-2015, 10:40 AM	#100
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Before you make another adjustment, I recommend that you move your shifter down by one spline. See if that makes any difference. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-19-2015, 11:27 PM	#91
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	Alright, so I have been riding the bike quite a bit and it has been doing well, but today I was out riding and out of nowhere the engagement point of the clutch changed. Usually the clutch engages slowly and can be released with a good controlled feeling in the hand, but when I was out today it changed to a small amount of engagement then all of a sudden engages the full way. So if I were to translate the engagement into numbers, 1 being disengaged and 10 being fully engaged, it used to go 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10, but now when I ride it goes 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-8-9-10 if that makes any sense. In order to take off from stoplights on my way home I had to do an awful lot of slipping to get the bike to take off without stalling, and the shifter is no longer a nice click. It feels more like I am forcing the shifter to do what I want.
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05-20-2015, 08:38 PM	#93
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I checked it out and it has no damage anywhere. Nothing feels like it is catching or snagging, its just the change in how the bike is responding. It also seems to get worse as the engine warms up.
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05-21-2015, 01:51 AM	#95
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	One of the first things I do after working on my bike is put a couple drops of 3 in 1 down each cable on the bike. I am going to do a bit more riding tomorrow and see the condition of the clutch changes for better or for worse, then will report back with my findings.
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06-09-2015, 10:27 PM	#99
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	Hey everyone, just stopping in to report. Today I tested out a 2011 CBR250R to see whats up, and of course loved it (however I don't think I will be able to leave the dual sport community) and when I got home and rode my bike, I noticed how much worse it shifts again. I know the honda is going to shift smoother regardless, but mine just feels like you need to put a bit too much effort into shifting it. I don't know whats up with my bike, maybe it's just made like this? My friend is getting his moto license soon and wants to buy my bike, and I will get something else, but I don't want to sell him a first bike that doesn't work properly.
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06-10-2015, 10:40 PM	#101
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I will do this right now, however wont be able to test till tomorrow. Just curious, what makes you think this will fix the issue?
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06-11-2015, 01:04 AM	#102
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	If your shifter is too high, it's difficult to upshift. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-11-2015, 05:19 PM	#103
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I changed it, no improvement. It's something internal that isn't working as smoothly as it should be. I just had the whole thing apart though so I don't know whats going on.
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06-12-2015, 12:26 AM	#104
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	It was worth a shot. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-12-2015, 02:15 AM	#105
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I think I am just going to try to sell this thing for as much as I can get and be done with it. Maybe move to an RX3 or Japanese bike...
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