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Weldangrind · 01-23-2015, 08:38 PM

There is still engine braking, but you can't ease into it by revving the motor to match the wheel speed. I can live with that.

recracer · 01-23-2015, 09:38 PM

http://moboshi.en.alibaba.com/produc...rom_China.html it appears in this setup that the centrifugal clutch is mounted to the crankshaft and retains the normal clutch basket

Weldangrind · 01-24-2015, 01:24 AM

Interesting. I wonder what the price is.

recracer · 01-24-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Interesting. I wonder what the price is.

I will find out . I did get a nice sales girl ,Named June to speak to me on this site . She was being as helpful as she could . I am sure she never was Questioned about retro-fitting automatic clutch before . 2 concerns I have about this one . Case clearance and what happens to the oil that goes to the centrifugal filter .

recracer · 01-25-2015, 09:40 AM

picture from Dan's motorcycles repair

Weldangrind · 01-25-2015, 01:44 PM

I watched a Youtube video on old Honda ATC centrifugal clutches as well, and they looked just the image you found at Dan's. I'm beginning to think that an old ATC engine is the best move. I could always combine the transmission with a CG230 motor.

SpudRider · 01-25-2015, 02:52 PM

Brother Dan posts a lot of good information.

http://www.dansmc.com/mc_repaircourse.htm

recracer · 01-25-2015, 11:38 PM

Seems a retro-fit makes no sense . I watched the you tube videos and see the manual clutch gets actuated by the shifter on a gear change . IE no help for your dad . We would still need our clutch lever or change to much , for it to be reasonable. Whole automatic engine seems a better way to go. That being said ,for the rest of us . We would still be able to revved clutch drops and roll to a stop without holding the clutch in .

Weldangrind · 01-26-2015, 01:47 AM

I've ridden a Honda Big Red, and there was no clutch lever. It was a true semi-auto with a five speed transmission and a centrifugal clutch. If I could find one, it would meet his needs.

Weldangrind · 01-26-2015, 01:47 AM

A semi-auto would also be an excellent teaching tool for new riders.

Adjuster · 01-26-2015, 02:08 AM

My original motor for my bike is a 49cc 4 speed semi auto. It does in fact have a lever activated clutch but its built into the foot shift lever. When you apply slight pressure to the shift lever it activates the clutch, then as you apply more pressure it shifts the gears.

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Weldangrind · 01-26-2015, 02:22 AM

That's the same setup as the small horizontal Hondas, and I believe the ATC's are also like that.

recracer · 01-26-2015, 09:09 AM

That is what I meant to convey , It would be difficult for us to employ gearshift clutch action , in a retrofit to our engines .

katoranger · 01-26-2015, 12:44 PM

Will be on the lookout for a big red motor. I see lots of those old ATC around here.

Weldangrind · 01-26-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by recracer

That is what I meant to convey , It would be difficult for us to employ gearshift clutch action , in a retrofit to our engines .

That is exactly what I thought you meant. Thanks for the vid.

01-23-2015, 08:38 PM	#76
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	There is still engine braking, but you can't ease into it by revving the motor to match the wheel speed. I can live with that. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-24-2015, 01:24 AM	#78
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Interesting. I wonder what the price is. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-25-2015, 01:44 PM	#81
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I watched a Youtube video on old Honda ATC centrifugal clutches as well, and they looked just the image you found at Dan's. I'm beginning to think that an old ATC engine is the best move. I could always combine the transmission with a CG230 motor. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-25-2015, 02:52 PM	#82
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Brother Dan posts a lot of good information. http://www.dansmc.com/mc_repaircourse.htm __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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01-26-2015, 01:47 AM	#84
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I've ridden a Honda Big Red, and there was no clutch lever. It was a true semi-auto with a five speed transmission and a centrifugal clutch. If I could find one, it would meet his needs. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-23-2015, 09:38 PM	#77
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	http://moboshi.en.alibaba.com/produc...rom_China.html it appears in this setup that the centrifugal clutch is mounted to the crankshaft and retains the normal clutch basket
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01-25-2015, 11:38 PM	#83
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	Seems a retro-fit makes no sense . I watched the you tube videos and see the manual clutch gets actuated by the shifter on a gear change . IE no help for your dad . We would still need our clutch lever or change to much , for it to be reasonable. Whole automatic engine seems a better way to go. That being said ,for the rest of us . We would still be able to revved clutch drops and roll to a stop without holding the clutch in .
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01-26-2015, 02:08 AM	#86
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	My original motor for my bike is a 49cc 4 speed semi auto. It does in fact have a lever activated clutch but its built into the foot shift lever. When you apply slight pressure to the shift lever it activates the clutch, then as you apply more pressure it shifts the gears. /
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01-26-2015, 02:22 AM	#87
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's the same setup as the small horizontal Hondas, and I believe the ATC's are also like that. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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01-26-2015, 09:09 AM	#88
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	That is what I meant to convey , It would be difficult for us to employ gearshift clutch action , in a retrofit to our engines .
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01-26-2015, 12:44 PM	#89
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Will be on the lookout for a big red motor. I see lots of those old ATC around here. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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