Dragon Chopper (3/4 chopper) - Page 6

Lil-John · 10-17-2008, 08:14 PM

I am 5'9", and weigh in at 130 lbs. i am not a big guy by any means, but that just makes me look better on it. it is a 3/4 chopper. not full sized, but just as long as a full size chopper, no great big motor, only 200 cc, but make sure you get the 5 speed, and the seat is just 20 or 22 inches off the ground. but it is a blast to ride. i have been riding mine every day since i got it. and registration isn't that hard, called yesterday, and the only thing i have to get before i register mine is a pair of rear view mirrors.

SgtScorpion · 10-17-2008, 08:17 PM

Damn forklift all poetic.....BUT THE TRUEST STATEMENT I EVER HEARD ON THE DRAGON CHOPPER!!!!
She is fun, cheap, and everyone likes to look at her. But she is mine....get your own LMAO. Yes there should be more parts directly sold for this market (like the tires ). But moding is as fun as the riding. You truely make the Dragon yours by doing so. And you don't have to get too crazy. Just a little here and there, a little engin work, a little dress-up, and a little fix-up, and she is YOUR machine.

I just wish we can get more owner's here, that have it street legal and rollin'.

Forklift352 · 10-19-2008, 01:50 AM

Keep this under hat......I met a guy who might have a line on...
you will never gess......TURBO..yep.Rumer has it that its like 1psi

He is going to send a link........stay tuned :twisted:

Jim · 10-19-2008, 03:08 AM

There was a custom turbo project at lifan-moto.com for a lifan 200 III

Forklift352 · 10-19-2008, 06:51 PM

Did it ever pan out???
edit:I just read the post and with the thumper 200cc it didn't do
much so it was abandoned or shelved till the 400cc comes out.
However...I spotted a 12v electric turbo it looks like a simple bolt on
I try to do more research.

mikejonesvault · 10-19-2008, 09:56 PM

I am planning on buying one of these choppers soon, the 5 speed model. I plan on changing to the lights to leds and going with the digital gauge as well.

Have you looked at anything as far as peformance goes? I have seen performance CDI's for sale. What about the mods described here: http://www.lifan-moto-forum.com/YaBB...m=1216255583/0
Is that the same 200cc motor? How many teeth are on your stock rear sprocket, a similar mod might work.

Edit: after looking around I realize that the 4 speed and 5 speed choppers have different motors, the 4 putting out 13 hp and the 5 putting out 16.1. Are either one of these motors identical to the one found on the LF200?

Forklift352 · 10-19-2008, 11:51 PM

I know mine is the 4 sp. and it has the pushrod.Others have the over
head cam.With,I believe,any of these china bikes it could be either or
as well it may be a lifan clone :( .My rear sprocket is a 36t and at one
time my drive and jackshaft were 15t.(now 17t all 3)From what I under
stand the pushrod ver. has good low end tork and the overhead cam
has got more top end.My Tach. read 9000 at top end so I guess I could
get a "racing" CDI.But some said their would be little dif.I will prob
get one next summer.Im still toying with the idea of putting a totally
diff.engine.Something Honda and about 400cc :twisted: I already got upgrade plans for the jackshaft.

Any body got a manual. I did not get one and if you could post it in the
Manual sec. that would be sweet!

Jim · 10-20-2008, 03:23 AM

Do you have the engine numbers?

Forklift352 · 10-20-2008, 06:48 AM

It says FML163......no -2 it is the pushrod ver.I think mine is a clone.

DDG1976 · 10-20-2008, 08:09 AM

The difference between the 163FML and the 163FML-2 is counterbalancing. The 163FML doesn't have the counterbalanced crank. You can tell by it having a bump out on the front of the crankcase that has some fins on it. This is the 163FML-2

Forklift352 · 10-20-2008, 11:27 AM

So what manual would work??

DDG1976 · 10-20-2008, 11:49 AM

They are both pushrod engines, the 163FML-2 is just the version that came in 2008 model American Lifans after enough complaints about vibration. The engines are identical other than the counterbalancing on the crank. So, as far as manual, If you have a 163FMl, you could go with the manual for a AL LF200GY-2. If you have the163FML-2 You could use the manual for a AL LF200GY-5 or GY-6

Forklift352 · 10-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Thanks Man!

mikejonesvault · 10-20-2008, 12:34 PM

Since the stock rear sprocket is a 36t, dropping a few teeth will give you a more comfortable top end cruise and some speed. scooterparts4less sells a racing cdi, a few carbs, etc. that may also work. I am interested to see which parts do/don't fit on this chopper.

katoranger · 10-20-2008, 01:29 PM

You will want to do a search in the dual sport on the racing CDIs before you buy. They are not for everyone.

Most of the standard performance tricks will work with these also.

Allen

10-19-2008, 03:08 AM	#79
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	There was a custom turbo project at lifan-moto.com for a lifan 200 III __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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10-20-2008, 03:23 AM	#83
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Do you have the engine numbers? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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10-20-2008, 08:09 AM	#85
DDG1976 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ringgold, Ga. Posts: 410	The difference between the 163FML and the 163FML-2 is counterbalancing. The 163FML doesn't have the counterbalanced crank. You can tell by it having a bump out on the front of the crankcase that has some fins on it. This is the 163FML-2 __________________ I have all of soberday to satur up!!
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10-20-2008, 11:49 AM	#87
DDG1976 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ringgold, Ga. Posts: 410	They are both pushrod engines, the 163FML-2 is just the version that came in 2008 model American Lifans after enough complaints about vibration. The engines are identical other than the counterbalancing on the crank. So, as far as manual, If you have a 163FMl, you could go with the manual for a AL LF200GY-2. If you have the163FML-2 You could use the manual for a AL LF200GY-5 or GY-6 __________________ I have all of soberday to satur up!!
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10-20-2008, 01:29 PM	#90
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	You will want to do a search in the dual sport on the racing CDIs before you buy. They are not for everyone. Most of the standard performance tricks will work with these also. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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10-17-2008, 08:14 PM	#76
Lil-John Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kenton, TN Posts: 37	I am 5'9", and weigh in at 130 lbs. i am not a big guy by any means, but that just makes me look better on it. it is a 3/4 chopper. not full sized, but just as long as a full size chopper, no great big motor, only 200 cc, but make sure you get the 5 speed, and the seat is just 20 or 22 inches off the ground. but it is a blast to ride. i have been riding mine every day since i got it. and registration isn't that hard, called yesterday, and the only thing i have to get before i register mine is a pair of rear view mirrors.
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10-17-2008, 08:17 PM	#77
SgtScorpion Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15	Damn forklift all poetic.....BUT THE TRUEST STATEMENT I EVER HEARD ON THE DRAGON CHOPPER!!!! She is fun, cheap, and everyone likes to look at her. But she is mine....get your own LMAO. Yes there should be more parts directly sold for this market (like the tires ). But moding is as fun as the riding. You truely make the Dragon yours by doing so. And you don't have to get too crazy. Just a little here and there, a little engin work, a little dress-up, and a little fix-up, and she is YOUR machine. I just wish we can get more owner's here, that have it street legal and rollin'.
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10-19-2008, 01:50 AM	#78
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	Keep this under hat......I met a guy who might have a line on... you will never gess......TURBO..yep.Rumer has it that its like 1psi He is going to send a link........stay tuned :twisted:
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10-19-2008, 06:51 PM	#80
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	Did it ever pan out??? edit:I just read the post and with the thumper 200cc it didn't do much so it was abandoned or shelved till the 400cc comes out. However...I spotted a 12v electric turbo it looks like a simple bolt on I try to do more research.
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10-19-2008, 09:56 PM	#81
mikejonesvault Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4	I am planning on buying one of these choppers soon, the 5 speed model. I plan on changing to the lights to leds and going with the digital gauge as well. Have you looked at anything as far as peformance goes? I have seen performance CDI's for sale. What about the mods described here: http://www.lifan-moto-forum.com/YaBB...m=1216255583/0 Is that the same 200cc motor? How many teeth are on your stock rear sprocket, a similar mod might work. Edit: after looking around I realize that the 4 speed and 5 speed choppers have different motors, the 4 putting out 13 hp and the 5 putting out 16.1. Are either one of these motors identical to the one found on the LF200?
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10-19-2008, 11:51 PM	#82
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	I know mine is the 4 sp. and it has the pushrod.Others have the over head cam.With,I believe,any of these china bikes it could be either or as well it may be a lifan clone :( .My rear sprocket is a 36t and at one time my drive and jackshaft were 15t.(now 17t all 3)From what I under stand the pushrod ver. has good low end tork and the overhead cam has got more top end.My Tach. read 9000 at top end so I guess I could get a "racing" CDI.But some said their would be little dif.I will prob get one next summer.Im still toying with the idea of putting a totally diff.engine.Something Honda and about 400cc :twisted: I already got upgrade plans for the jackshaft. Any body got a manual. I did not get one and if you could post it in the Manual sec. that would be sweet!
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10-20-2008, 06:48 AM	#84
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	It says FML163......no -2 it is the pushrod ver.I think mine is a clone.
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10-20-2008, 11:27 AM	#86
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	So what manual would work??
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10-20-2008, 11:55 AM	#88
Forklift352 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Salem ,Oregon Posts: 121	Thanks Man!
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10-20-2008, 12:34 PM	#89
mikejonesvault Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4	Since the stock rear sprocket is a 36t, dropping a few teeth will give you a more comfortable top end cruise and some speed. scooterparts4less sells a racing cdi, a few carbs, etc. that may also work. I am interested to see which parts do/don't fit on this chopper.
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