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Old 05-01-2012, 10:44 AM   #61
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I can't see the video mow but if we're talking Steve McQueen have you all seen, "On Any Sunday"?
I actually came across that last night on Youtube for the first time. I haven't seen all of it yet.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:40 AM   #62
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The stock skid plate was the first thing I changed on my KLX. The aftermarket will step up to the plate I'm sure.

I see it has a steel frame like my KLX. I don't know why I assumed it was aluminum.

The MSRP for a 2012 KLX250 is $5,000.

NO WAY Honda will introduce a newer model with FI for less than that. The KLX is ALSO not made in Japan.

I'm betting on $5,999 gentlemen, sorry to say.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #63
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Well seeing as how the CRF230L is MSRP at $4999.00 I don't see 4K right away. but at the 5K mark I would still go red. I have run enough Yamaha's and their compromises for a lifetime. (not so much the current Wr but all the other Yams I have raced and ridden.)
Yes, but the MSRP for the new CBR250R is currently $4,099, and the CRF250L shares the same engine. Both bikes are manufactured in Thailand; hence the affordable price. Honda is finally trying to recapture some of the Third World market for small displacement motorcycles from the Chinese with these motorcycles. Therefore, I am hoping the MSRP of the CRF250L matches the price of the CBR250R. However, I never underestimate the power of corporate greed, so only time will tell. :roll:

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Old 05-01-2012, 01:35 PM   #64
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The stock skid plate certainly seems adequate.
The wide foot pegs, sight glass and six speed are all terrific features, but the stock skid plate isn't wide enough. I needs to shield a bit of the side covers and protect the oil filter and water pump housings. The stock skid plate is certainly better than what came on my XR, but the aftermarket will need to come to the rescue.
I'm glad to see a stock skid plate included with the bike. As I said, I think the stock skid plate is adequate; however, I agree, the stock skid plate is certainly less than ideal. I agree with you completely; I would prefer better coverage for the bottom of the frame and the sides of the engine. I also agree with FastDoc; the aftermarket will rush to provide a better skid plate. Nevertheless, an adequate skid plate, even less than ideal, is much better than no skid plate at all!

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Old 05-01-2012, 01:38 PM   #65
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You may be right Spud.

I'll betcha Honda loses money at that price on the CBR's though and they choose to do that to introduce new riders to their brand. I just can't picture the CRF being a grand less than an older model (the 230 or the KLX250) without FI. I think it will be at least the same as the WR at around 6 grand.

I bought my new (leftover) KLX for less than $4,000 OTD IIRC. :P

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Old 05-01-2012, 01:51 PM   #66
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Dual sport bikes always seem to cost much more that street bikes. :( The superior, dirt bike suspension probably contributes to the higher cost. This bike is supposed to go on sale in Japan this month. I wonder if we can discover the Japanese MSRP for this bike? Then we will have a good clue as to how much this bike will cost relative to the CBR250R. :idea:

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:23 PM   #67
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Here's the best price information I could find so far. :roll: This Indian website speculates the cost of the CRF250L will be 1.5 lakh rupees, if the bike is sold in India. This particular post was made on April 28, 2012.

http://www.drivespark.com/two-wheele...nch-india.html

One lakh rupee is equal to 100,000 rupees. Therefore, 1.5 lakh rupees is 150,000 rupees. At the current exchange rage, 150,000 rupees is equal to $2,859 USD. Of course, this price is too low. However, the speculation in India seems to confirm they anticipate the bike will cost approximately the same as the CBR250R. I hope they are correct. :roll:

Can anyone find the Japanese MSRP for this bike? :?:

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:33 PM   #68
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OK. I am not surprised, but I was indeed, too optimistic. :roll: Visiting the Honda Japan website, I discovered the MSRP of the CRF250L is 449,499 yen, including tax. The MSRP minus tax is 428,000 yen.

http://translate.google.com/translat...honda.co.jp%2F

At the current exchange rate, 428,000 yen is equal to $5,335 USD. This would price the CRF250L approximately $1,000 USD less than the Yamaha WR250R, which seems appropriate. Compared to the competition, that's a good price. However, it's too rich for my blood. I'll keep riding my Zong, and wait a few years to see if I can find a good price on a used CRF250L.

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:35 PM   #69
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:32 PM   #70
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Well at 5K I would still be in the game. But As long as mom's house sells and I get the estate settled I will be able to pay off all my bills (not my house) and have some in the bank. if they have decent financing I would go for it.
Time will tell.

And Yes Spud you were optimistic. (not a bad thing) but no way the replacement model with more bling is going to be cheaper.


 
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:56 PM   #71
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The Yamaha lists for $6,590.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/20.../05/index.html

No way can I see the Honda, which is about a 4 year newer design, also with fuel injection, selling for much less than that.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:57 PM   #72
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So 5 grand for the Kawasaki, 6,600 for the Yamaha, the LOWEST I see the Honda will be 6,000, and given the price of the Yamaha, maybe quite a bit higher than that.
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I am casually watching for another dualsport. I believe I can get permission to have it in Kansas.
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