09-19-2016, 08:43 AM | #61 | |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
Quote:
|
|
|
09-19-2016, 05:01 PM | #62 |
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1
|
is there anyway you could post up your static and race sag measurements along with your weight? This would let everyone know how close the 1200lbs spring rating would work for them.
|
|
09-19-2016, 07:12 PM | #63 |
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 237
|
yeah its 32 static, sag ill have to get someone to measure while i sit on the bike, but i would guess its 1.5" lower than static, this is at the seat, riders position. i weigh 163 lbs. theres a bit of droop as well, ill figure out how to measure that.
i have no race settings, dont do that anymore.. |
|
09-20-2016, 04:16 PM | #64 |
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 237
|
if i pull up on the rear its comes up to 32.5", static ie its own weight its 32"' and when i sit down its 31". hope that helps. took a spin last night and wound up dialing in more rebound dampening. so now at 3 of 10. it felt a bit springy at 2.
|
|
09-21-2016, 02:21 AM | #65 | |
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ChCh , NZ
Posts: 2,265
|
Quote:
1/2" static & 1-1/2" rider... seems way over sprung unless it has 4-1/2" of total wheel travel then it's right.. It must have more than 4-1/2" of total wheel travel... Should be quite good on the road with those settings... ..
__________________
09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com |
|
|
09-21-2016, 11:46 AM | #66 |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
FWIW, I agree with Pete.
|
|
09-21-2016, 04:04 PM | #67 |
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 237
|
My measurments are from the seat to the ground. i never measured wheel travel, I think would,have to take the spring off the shock to do so.
The shock itself appears to have about 4" of travel, so more at the wheel, how much I dont know. but it isnt likely doubled. how do you come up with 4.5" wheel travel? just trying to understand! Keep,in mind the stock shock presented zero sag, even with me on it. had no spring adjustment, or dampening adjustment, and had the bike jacked up to 35" seat,height. a day of riding it with that shock was abusive to say the least. Maybe my bike had a substitute part on it and others have a softer shock, but it was that stiff. My problem was seat height and stiffness. so thats what I measured throughout. The hawk will never have the suspension my yz250 had. that would drop 4" or so when i sat down, and still have plenty left. |
|
09-21-2016, 04:22 PM | #68 | |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
Quote:
|
|
|
09-22-2016, 02:00 AM | #69 | |
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ChCh , NZ
Posts: 2,265
|
Quote:
wheel travel if you have got the sags right.... but I don't think you have as it must have more than 4-1/2" of wheel travel... not all bumps come up so the wheel needs to be able to travel down/out for the bumps that drop away.. you need travel in both directions..... ..
__________________
09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com |
|
|
09-22-2016, 02:01 AM | #70 |
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ChCh , NZ
Posts: 2,265
|
be very careful it could be come a habbit....
,
__________________
09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com |
|
09-22-2016, 09:53 AM | #71 |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
I thought only rabbits had the habbit.
|
|
09-22-2016, 10:07 AM | #72 | |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
Quote:
Last edited by Ariel Red Hunter; 09-22-2016 at 02:21 PM. |
|
|
09-22-2016, 11:00 AM | #73 |
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 237
|
so the rider sag should be a third of the total travel regardless how much sag the bike has under its own weight?
I sould measure the total travel and the sag at the shock, since I can see the travel there without having to exercising it. probly use millimeters. would I account for the bump stop? There is room to loosen the spring preload some without the spring becomming loose in the perches. I have not touched the preload setting as of yet. it is probly just some random amount by feel during assembly of the shock. It explains alot about the way this bike handled with the stock shock and virtually zero sag. and perhaps why I'm so satisfied with it even if its not Ideal. I'll try and make the recomended changes Tommorow Night as I'm taking it to Limestone again Saturday. I have some footage of me riding/falling there with the stock shock, Ill take some more with the tuned replacement and we can compare. I also added a bead lock to the rear tire and lowered the tire pressure to 23 psi for the trails, where the first ride it had like 35 psi to prevent tearing the stem off the tube. so that makes a big difference as well. Ill try to get the stock ride footage up on youtube tonight. and post a like here. The difference should be obvious. |
|
09-22-2016, 02:36 PM | #74 | |
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: akwesasne, NY-13655
Posts: 2,220
|
Quote:
|
|
|
09-22-2016, 05:07 PM | #75 | |
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 237
|
Quote:
tires are at 23 psi rear and 25 front.. rear tube has been replaced. front is stock. Were hauling the machines in a trailer to Limestone, its about 2 hours south on the Pensilvania border, about 5 or 10 miles north of Bradford.. "Oil Country". Its interesting to see the old and new equipment in the woods. you do have to be carefull that stuff would hurt to crash into. |
|
|
|
|
|
|