05-14-2019, 10:16 AM | #61 | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,710
|
Quote:
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel |
|
|
05-14-2019, 11:35 AM | #62 | |
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Stockport, Oh.
Posts: 1,442
|
Quote:
I strongly considered going to the gas station and picking up a couple quarts of ATF, and I'm sure it would have worked well in these simple forks. But I don't plan on taking them off or apart again so I went with specific fork oil. Truth be told I worked at the Polaris/Victory dealership in question as a tech and they will only warranty their machines if you buy their expensive fluids and oils. I'm sure there's nothing special about them other than the purple coloring they add. But anywho, I think I'll start recommending ATF to folks on the fb groups just because it's so cheap and easy to find ($16 for the Polaris/Victory fork oil but the pretty purple color was nice lol). |
|
|
05-14-2019, 03:35 PM | #63 | |||
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
Quote:
Quote:
The other, and main, reason I like using fork oil is the specified weight on the bottle. Not all ATFs are created equal and some are lighter or heavier than others (some might be 10 weight, others 5, depending on brand and type). The same is actually true between fork oils, which is why sticking with the same brand is so important. Maxima 10wt might actually be a little heavier/lighter than PJ1 10wt for example. The specified weight of the oil is useful in determing what direction to go when trying to dial in/out certain behaviors in the damper. My forks having the valves installed also means that the weight of the fork oil only determines the rebound and partially the low speed compression behavior since those are fixed orifice hole sizes. The 15wt I am currently using is actually well controlled for road use, but is just a little too slow for rebound when things get bumpy, hence the desire to go lighter. The fluid numbers give me a point of reference for adjusting said tuning. One nice thing about the Hawk in particular is that it uses just the right amount of fluid that I can save money by buying a half liter bottle of fork oil. That also means I use most of the bottle and don't have a bunch of half full bottles sitting around. Quote:
I honestly think it is worth the extra money to get the shocks with the adjustable damping. It may not have a lot of fine tuning to it, but it is nice being able to stiffen or loosen up the damping.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|||
|
05-14-2019, 03:42 PM | #64 | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,710
|
Quote:
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel |
|
|
05-14-2019, 04:28 PM | #65 | |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
Quote:
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
|
05-14-2019, 04:47 PM | #66 |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,710
|
yeah, I know I was excited until I saw the shipping. lol But still not a bad price.
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel |
|
05-16-2019, 10:09 PM | #67 |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
So while I wait in limbo for parts to arrive I am spending way too much time looking at parts...
I stumbled into these and I am thinking about giving them a try. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FX-C...f2d92e0eyouC21 Or this slightly cheaper set with allen heads on the adjusters.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mgoo...f2d92e0eyouC21 It would be kind of nice to be able to dial in a bit more preload when I have carrying a bunch of weight in my pack, or tail bag.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
05-17-2019, 10:19 AM | #68 |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,710
|
Good find! I would do the allen head ones. Less chance of boggering up. I hate anything that requires a flat screw driver. lol
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel |
|
05-17-2019, 04:11 PM | #69 |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
The top ones I linked are hex head adjusters, probably 10mm. Allens would make carrying an adjutment tool a lot easier though. an L allen takes up very little space.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
05-17-2019, 04:15 PM | #70 | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,710
|
Quote:
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel |
|
|
05-17-2019, 06:01 PM | #71 |
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Serbia
Posts: 217
|
Nice find! I searched for adjusters for china USD forks, but got 0 results.
|
|
05-17-2019, 06:29 PM | #72 | |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
Quote:
I don't know if they will work or not yet, but I suspect they will. By looks everything seems to be correct. They did have a bunch of other options. I might be able to find something for the USD forks, but then it would depend on the type of USD forks in question. Some are just regular old dampening rods turned upside down, others are actual cartridges.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
|
05-17-2019, 06:50 PM | #73 |
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ChCh , NZ
Posts: 2,266
|
wonder how high they are....
usually not a lot of space between the fork and handle bars.. if the bars go across them it could make adjusting hard with out removing the bars... but all still easyer than making spacers.. ..
__________________
09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com |
|
05-17-2019, 06:56 PM | #74 |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
So, I have still been experiencing some odd running issues with my Hawk. I have changed the main jet between 120 and 125 a million times, played with the needle, my idle will be good one moment and strange the next. Sometimes it would start right up, others it would immediately stall.
So, I decided I have had enough and tore it down to every individual component and then set it in my heated ultrasonic cleaner in regular distilled water for 20 minutes. As I put it back together I was inspecting every part closely and then made a discovery on my float needle. It had a gouge in it... That would explain quite a bit if it wasn't seating fully and the bowl level was constantly fluctuating. It never overflowed though, so it couldn't have been a big leak. I stole the one from my stock carb and made sure it was good, threw it all back together, set my float height, and then started from scratch dialing in my carb. With 80 degree air temp and 60% humidity I ended up with the 45 pilot, Mixture 2 1/4 turns out, needle in the 3rd notch, and a 125 main. The 4th notch is way too rich with the 125 main, and the second actually works, but you can feel it is a tad lean. She pulls WAY stronger than she did before through the whole throttle sweep and my idle is rock solid steady. Starts right up too without cutting out. I do wish I could try a 48 pilot jet, but I can live with my mixture a quarter past 2 turns. No hesitation at light throttle, so it's not that lean. Gotta love itty bitty little things that can make your life hell.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
05-17-2019, 06:57 PM | #75 |
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 8,109
|
The Hawk bars are positioned far enough back on the upper clamp that they shouldn't hit anything. In my case, I have all the room in the world with my risers.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124 |
|
|
|
|
|