05-15-2020, 12:12 PM | #61 |
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No worries, I'm leaving today for at least a week, so it's on hold till I get back. I found this one on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Bashan-D...53.m1438.l2649
Is it similar to yours?
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05-18-2020, 11:42 PM | #62 |
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I received my rear swing arm kit from Peace, nicely packaged, all the parts I needed, and arrived quickly, so that was fantastic!
The swing arm basically bolts right on and looks nice. One problem I had with the Hawk was the bracket for the rear caliper was machined poorly, and the top bolt boss stuck out too far and caused the the caliper to rub slightly on the rotor. I took the angle grinder to that and ground it down flush. That was a Hawk manufacturing defect and didn't hit the breaking surface. Fortunately, the Hawk only uses the top 1/3 of the rotor You can see the rubbing on the rotor: Also, the new swing arm is still china quality machine work, and the adjuster bolt sticks out so that only half the bolt head sits on the adjuster, as you can see. Not a huge issue. The tick marks are slightly off from side to side. Everything lined up nicely on the sprocket side. I still had to cut the ridge off the chain slider because it wasn't lined up with the front sprocket. There doesn't seem to be a way to adjust the front sprocket further out on the motor. The chain has always been a littler closer to the tire than I would like. The original Hawk swing arm had a rubber bushing and a steel sleeve where the main bolt runs through. The rubber seems to have deteriorated over around 1,500 miles of trail riding. The sleeve is no longer centered and this probably created some rear end slop: Overall, I'm happy with this upgrade and I'm looking forward to taking it out next weekend for a test run.
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In this picture you can see where the axle and adjuster sits after shortening the chain 2 links. I can still quite easily slide the wheel forward and loop the chain off of the rear sprocket. You are correct that the adjustment notches are slightly off, but unlike the original swing arm it is much easier to simply measure the distance from the adjuster to the end of the axle. Or in my case, I know exactly where to set one side in relation to the other. Quote:
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05-19-2020, 08:20 AM | #64 |
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As another side note when using this swing arm on a Hawk, if you wish to avoid the increase in ride height after installing this swing arm you will want to install a 10-15mm shorter shock. Roughly 305mm, which I do believe is the stock Brozz shock length, or at least very close to it.
That might be a good optional extra to include with the swing arm kit, a Brozz rear shock.
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I could use a new shock, I thought you posted a link to one you got, but now I can't find it. Now that you have it, do you still like that shock? If so, can you re-post the link? I don't know why I didn't think about taking a few links out of the chain. I'll try that next. Quote:
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If you are interested this is the link. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 There are some on ebay from third parties for around 100 bucks or so if you do want one and cannot wait. That's why the grease zerk is the best way to go about it. Then you can just give it a shot every once in a while to keep it greased and fresh. Otherwise you have to pull it apart from time to time and re grease it.
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If I had a bolt the same size, I could tap it through with more grease and tap it back out to keep everything lined up, and not have to take everything apart.
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05-19-2020, 06:35 PM | #68 |
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The shock is indeed a hard size to find. I've found this shock: https://www.ebay.com/itm/310mm-12-2-...AAAOSwgKRdodxf
It appears to be the one used in this video: I don't know how much better that is than the stock hawk shock though. Looks bouncy.
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Me, personally, I just tear it all down once a year and clean it up and re grease it all. Like you I just try to get as much as I can on the bolt and in the sleeves with my fingers and a long q tip. I work the shaft/bolt back and forth and spin it around to try and distribute everything evenly, and call it a day. I go through that because I also grease the shock bolts and bushings as well, which will need it too, and its only one more step by that point anyway. Quote:
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It would be neat if there was also a full swing-arm assembly kit. Like the existing kit + rear break caliper assembly + bracket, and a full wheel/tire assembly. for more of a drop in kit for all the tbr7's that maay not quite fit with the stock wheel/tire and break assembly.
I'm still waiting a couple weeks till i buy a hawk250, but the longer I've been waiting there are some nuances that the tbr7 sounds nicer than the hawk to me in lol. Either bike I buy I'm slapping a brozz 250 rear end on, it just looks so much better. The stock rear break setup on the tbr7 looks quite a bit different from the hawk250, so the people saying the $75 kit didn't fit might be right. If peace has noticed some nice order numbers of that swing arm kit, I don't doubt a good portion of people looking at that kit would be willing to pay a little more for a drop in assembly (especially if its literally just for a spare tire, and break caliper). |
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I suggest doing it this way so he actually can have the inventory on hand. OTherwise you could be in for a long wait.
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I would not mind it being the $200+ at that price of the kit its well worth it with the parts that are meant to work together. it turns into a cost vs time comparison, a few extra bucks can easily make up for the headache and time of trying to align the breaks and making up spacers. heck with all the posts about broken wheel spokes, I was planning on a spare set of tires just to have so I can swap them out and work on the spokes on my own time, not being reliant on fixing them right away just to get back out on the trails/road. |
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05-25-2020, 06:50 PM | #74 |
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Hey, did you ever throw a measurement on your rotor?
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05-25-2020, 07:27 PM | #75 |
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I did actually, and then completely spaced posting it up here lol. It is 1.25 inches from the rotor to the inner part of the swing arm, so it is exactly the same in that regard.
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