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Join Date: May 2019
Location: Port Huron, Michigan
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2020 Triumph Tiger 900 rally. 2018 Bashan Storm 250. pz30b, digital cluster + gear indicator, unifilter and car customs full exhaust. 2019 Taotao 110b boulder atv. The "arm breaker" lol 2007 Honda VTX 1300R. 1974 Suzuki tm125, work in progress 2001 Suzuki Drz 400s. |
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea
Posts: 1,481
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A2 limits are 47hp, after that they're unlimited, so that must be something else. I'm pretty sure if the Triumph dealer puts a triumph map on it, it doesn't violate the warranty
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Join Date: May 2019
Location: Port Huron, Michigan
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"Any motorcycle more powerful than 94bhp in standard manufacturers trim cannot be restricted down" https://begin-motorcycling.co.uk/a2-...indepth-guide/
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2020 Triumph Tiger 900 rally. 2018 Bashan Storm 250. pz30b, digital cluster + gear indicator, unifilter and car customs full exhaust. 2019 Taotao 110b boulder atv. The "arm breaker" lol 2007 Honda VTX 1300R. 1974 Suzuki tm125, work in progress 2001 Suzuki Drz 400s. |
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: KY
Posts: 274
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Those regulations show up over and over in the HP figures of the entire industry. Looking at the best sellers you will see a host of 400-650 bikes listing 47hp as their output, then you jump to the 700+ area and find another group all limited to 94hp, or slightly less, output.
The EU regulations now drive most of the motorcycle industry in the western world, and the U.S. gets only the remains our limited demand can draw. Plus our motorcycle culture is completely different over here, being almost entirely recreational use That means we miss out on some of the best small cc commuter bikes made. While we polish and port and change carbs, exhausts and CDI units on our 250cc bikes to hit 60-65 and 70 on a good day, in Europe you can walk into a dealership and purchase a water cooled 125cc Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, or even a Sinus or Lexmoto that will produce 15hp and easily do 70-80 mph with full exhaust emissions gear in pace. Those bikes are usually not even imported to the U.S. We get only 8hp Groms and Monkey Bikes. Of course they must ride these 125cc wonders until they are 19, or I believe new riders of any age must ride the learner bikes for 1 year before going for a full license. But there is an advantage. You do not have to have a full license to ride a 125cc bike, just a learner permit (CBT). You can renew that CBT every 2 years forever and never take the full test. That is why they have so many very good 125 bikes and scooters in Europe. More adults are riding them as lifetime users. The A2 class of bikes is truly a place where "disposable" bikes rule. Most A2 riders will stay there for 3-5 years before taking the full test and moving to a full license. They can then de-regulate their restricted bike or go to a full license model. The Chinese are trying to develop this segment, hoping the bikes will last long enough for the 19 year olds to turn 21 and trade them off for a full size bike before they fall apart. Compare that to my basic license course to get motorcycle endorsement on my license. I was the only person in a class of 20 riding a bike of less than 650cc and 4-5 of the "new riders" were on Harley Dynas and Road Glides. One of the Harley riders was 16.
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 365
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It's Here
The bike came in last Friday, but I've been busy with some important home repairs, so I haven't had any time to get out on it; hopefully this weekend. I started a thread over in the 'Street' subforum, which has pictures:
http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...d=1#post366759 |
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: RDU, NC
Posts: 678
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Found out something interesting today. The SG400 alters the redline depending on the gear you're in. In 1st gear the redline is 9000. In 3rd gear it changes to 9500. I haven't tested above that yet, but I'll bet 10k doesn't start until 5th gear.
That's really unfortunate, I'm constantly bouncing off the rev limiter in first, and now I know why. I wonder if I can trick the ECU into thinking I'm always in 6th, without that affecting my gear indicator... Charles. |
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Houston area
Posts: 1,902
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ooops. Wrong thread. Sorry
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