Abunch of Lifan XR200 pictures - Page 4

Weldangrind · 10-31-2010, 12:13 AM

It looks great Doc! Would you like to do a front disc brake upgrade? I have some parts...

FastDoc · 10-31-2010, 09:24 PM

The Rat is running great. I trail rode 40 miles this weekend without a hitch.

The seat cover I bought is wrong, will try to send it back.

The chain and rear sprocket are shot. Since I'm leaning towards keeping it, I will order new ones. A Tsubaki and a JT, respectively. The front sprocket is new.

Does anyone know if these Honda mufflers need to be repacked? It sounds kinda meaty.

mizke · 10-31-2010, 10:17 PM

ahh doc just swap that can out for a new fmf one, or hmf, dg, yoshi.. add some power, a nicer sound, and hotter looks

SpudRider · 10-31-2010, 10:42 PM

Holy Cow! I must have accidentally unsubscribed from this thread! 8O I'm glad I discovered the problem, and got back here!

The "Dirt Rat" looks great, Doc! You did a superb job.

Spud

FastDoc · 10-31-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

Holy Cow! I must have accidentally unsubscribed from this thread! 8O I'm glad I discovered the problem, and got back here!

The "Dirt Rat" looks great, Doc! You did a superb job.

Spud

Spud, I was WONDERING where you were! My feelings were getting hurt you'd hardly noticed The Rat!

SpudRider · 10-31-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

Holy Cow! I must have accidentally unsubscribed from this thread! 8O I'm glad I discovered the problem, and got back here!

The "Dirt Rat" looks great, Doc! You did a superb job.

Spud

Spud, I was WONDERING where you were! My feelings were getting hurt you'd hardly noticed The Rat!

I'm sorry, Doc! :( I don't know how I got unsubscribed from this thread! :? In the past I have clicked the wrong "button" by mistake, and been unsubscribed from threads; I guess the same thing happened to me this time. :roll: Anyway, I am very glad to be back! Congratulations! The "Dirt Rat" looks great! You have broken new ground with this project, Brother Bill!

Spud

Weldangrind · 10-31-2010, 11:35 PM

Swapping on a different pipe is a challenge, since there isn't much aftermarket support for this model year. I don't think that the stock mufflers require packing, but maybe the baffle has been removed.

If you seriously want to swap the muffler for another product, let me know. I worked out a solution for Son of Weldangrind's '83, because the stock muffler was rotten.

FastDoc · 11-01-2010, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Swapping on a different pipe is a challenge, since there isn't much aftermarket support for this model year. I don't think that the stock mufflers require packing, but maybe the baffle has been removed.

If you seriously want to swap the muffler for another product, let me know. I worked out a solution for Son of Weldangrind's '83, because the stock muffler was rotten.

The pipe is probably fine and normal, I'm just used to Q. Q is very quiet.

mizke · 11-01-2010, 03:41 AM

im sure the header is good, i was merely talking about the silencer.. a nice fmf, dg or hmf silencer with a quit core inscert would look great..

if doc really really wanted a head pipe, just take it to any muffler shop who does customs exhaust for cars.. they have stainless steel pipe and the means to weld it..

katoranger · 11-01-2010, 08:52 AM

I plan to stick with the stock unit on mine. Our trails are within city limits and close to houses. I don't need to make any more noise than necessary and power is not really that important to me. Most likely won't get past 2nd or 3rd gear.

FastDoc · 11-01-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

I plan to stick with the stock unit on mine. Our trails are within city limits and close to houses. I don't need to make any more noise than necessary and power is not really that important to me. Most likely won't get past 2nd or 3rd gear.

I have a 13 tooth front/50 tooth rear sprocket. I think that's stock. With the Lifan engine she'll wind out at about 60. I've not tried since I'm still in the break in period.

It's geared low, appropiate for a dirt only machine. I bet even at 20 on the trails you'll be in 4th or 5th. Should be quiet enough.

I will check my baffle, and spark arrestor.

katoranger · 11-01-2010, 01:58 PM

Maybe need a 14T sprocket then. I don't need to go too fast. The trails are short and twisty. Maybe a 4 acre area that we do laps on. The 90cc stays in 2-3rd most of the time.

Weldangrind · 11-01-2010, 02:11 PM

A 14 tooth will give you more top end and less low end grunt. We've dropped to a 12 tooth on Son of Weldangrind's XR200R. We want a wheelie machine.

FastDoc · 11-01-2010, 02:17 PM

For where I am the 13 is just right.

I climbed a stupid steep long hill yesterday that gives Q fits. The Dirt Rat calmly chugged up it. Mostly in second, with a downshift to first at the top.

If the motor was broken in, and I was allowed full throttle, it wowuld have done it in second no problem.

A better rider wouldd have done it in third! :oops:

Since this bike will never see the street, a 50ish MPH top speed is more than enough.

If it was an XL, I bet it could be geared for a comfortable 65.

As always, it's too bad the China motors are not 6 speeds. That would solve this gearing issue.

Or a high low transfer case.

FastDoc · 11-01-2010, 02:19 PM

Here's the hill. It's much bigger in person.

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FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	The Rat is running great. I trail rode 40 miles this weekend without a hitch. The seat cover I bought is wrong, will try to send it back. The chain and rear sprocket are shot. Since I'm leaning towards keeping it, I will order new ones. A Tsubaki and a JT, respectively. The front sprocket is new. Does anyone know if these Honda mufflers need to be repacked? It sounds kinda meaty. __________________ Happy to serve.
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10-31-2010, 10:17 PM	#48
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	ahh doc just swap that can out for a new fmf one, or hmf, dg, yoshi.. add some power, a nicer sound, and hotter looks __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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10-31-2010, 10:42 PM	#49
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Holy Cow! I must have accidentally unsubscribed from this thread! 8O I'm glad I discovered the problem, and got back here! The "Dirt Rat" looks great, Doc! You did a superb job. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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10-31-2010, 11:35 PM	#52
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Swapping on a different pipe is a challenge, since there isn't much aftermarket support for this model year. I don't think that the stock mufflers require packing, but maybe the baffle has been removed. If you seriously want to swap the muffler for another product, let me know. I worked out a solution for Son of Weldangrind's '83, because the stock muffler was rotten. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-01-2010, 03:41 AM	#54
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	im sure the header is good, i was merely talking about the silencer.. a nice fmf, dg or hmf silencer with a quit core inscert would look great.. if doc really really wanted a head pipe, just take it to any muffler shop who does customs exhaust for cars.. they have stainless steel pipe and the means to weld it.. __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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11-01-2010, 08:52 AM	#55
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I plan to stick with the stock unit on mine. Our trails are within city limits and close to houses. I don't need to make any more noise than necessary and power is not really that important to me. Most likely won't get past 2nd or 3rd gear.
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11-01-2010, 01:58 PM	#57
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Maybe need a 14T sprocket then. I don't need to go too fast. The trails are short and twisty. Maybe a 4 acre area that we do laps on. The 90cc stays in 2-3rd most of the time.
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11-01-2010, 02:11 PM	#58
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	A 14 tooth will give you more top end and less low end grunt. We've dropped to a 12 tooth on Son of Weldangrind's XR200R. We want a wheelie machine. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-01-2010, 02:17 PM	#59
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	For where I am the 13 is just right. I climbed a stupid steep long hill yesterday that gives Q fits. The Dirt Rat calmly chugged up it. Mostly in second, with a downshift to first at the top. If the motor was broken in, and I was allowed full throttle, it wowuld have done it in second no problem. A better rider wouldd have done it in third! :oops: Since this bike will never see the street, a 50ish MPH top speed is more than enough. If it was an XL, I bet it could be geared for a comfortable 65. As always, it's too bad the China motors are not 6 speeds. That would solve this gearing issue. Or a high low transfer case. __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-01-2010, 02:19 PM	#60
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Here's the hill. It's much bigger in person. __________________ Happy to serve.
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