JerryHawk250's Lifan KPX250 - Page 4

Boatguy · 06-27-2022, 11:31 AM

The difference in height from the xpect really looks like the difference in wheel diameter plus the difference in engine size (height).

On the xpect, we have to remove the size plastic where it says 250 on yours to get the seat off.

I miss my old Honda ATCs. Pull a lever and the seat just popped off.

**JerryHawk250** · 06-27-2022, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boatguy

The difference in height from the xpect really looks like the difference in wheel diameter plus the difference in engine size (height).

On the xpect, we have to remove the size plastic where it says 250 on yours to get the seat off.

I miss my old Honda ATCs. Pull a lever and the seat just popped off.

It's good that you have to remove the bolts. Otherwise someone could just pop the seat off and disconnect the alarm system or possibly just screw things up for you.

david3921 · 06-27-2022, 01:49 PM

Is the plug under the seat for an OBD2 scanner? If so, what data can you look at?

**JerryHawk250** · 06-27-2022, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by david3921

Is the plug under the seat for an OBD2 scanner? If so, what data can you look at?

I haven't located the OBD2 port yet. I'll be looking into that as soon as i find what plug-in connector is needed.

Boatguy · 06-27-2022, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

It's good that you have to remove the bolts. Otherwise someone could just pop the seat off and disconnect the alarm system or possibly just screw things up for you.

Ahhhh. People suck. You’re right!

TominMO · 06-27-2022, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

It's good that you have to remove the bolts. Otherwise someone could just pop the seat off and disconnect the alarm system or possibly just screw things up for you.

At least they engineered it so you don't have to remove the side plastic to get the seat off. But IIRC all the old bikes that had flip-up seats had locks on the latch.

CaptainCanuck · 06-27-2022, 05:23 PM

Nice bike! Shame they don't sell them in Canada. Though if they did they would probably be $5K.
Enjoy, looks like a blast

**JerryHawk250** · 06-27-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck

Nice bike! Shame they don't sell them in Canada. Though if they did they would probably be $5K.
Enjoy, looks like a blast

That is a shame because it is an awesome bike.
Well I'm insured, registered and tagged but the rain just won't go away.

XLsior · 06-27-2022, 09:18 PM

out of curiosity how much of a balance shaft housing protrusion is there over a non balance shaft engine...Seeing as you've had/have both types now.

No chance of this coming to Australia with our new mandatory ABS requirements. No more new DR650s and never got the KLX300.

I doubt Lifan Australia will be bringing them either they haven't updated the Australian home page for years now.

**JerryHawk250** · 06-27-2022, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XLsior

out of curiosity how much of a balance shaft housing protrusion is there over a non balance shaft engine...Seeing as you've had/have both types now.

No chance of this coming to Australia with our new mandatory ABS requirements. No more new DR650s and never got the KLX300.

I doubt Lifan Australia will be bringing them either they haven't updated the Australian home page for years now.

I'd say it sticks out maybe 1 1/5 farther than a non- counterbalanced engine.

Thumper · 06-28-2022, 08:03 AM

Nice bike. Clean lines and great specs. It is good to see that 6sp version of the ZS172FMM "2P" in there. I have the "3A" 5 speed version in the Templar X, and I love it. Amazing what an extra 5hp can do for a bike this size!

It looks like you have the oiled foam dome air filter like I do on the 3A. I like the serviceability of that design.

Oh... It is in fact more difficult to get to the valves compared to the 14hp CG engine. They are deeper inside there through round caps. But that is a small inconvenience well worth the enhanced performance

**JerryHawk250** · 06-28-2022, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Nice bike. Clean lines and great specs. It is good to see that 6sp version of the ZS172FMM "2P" in there. I have the "3A" 5 speed version in the Templar X, and I love it. Amazing what an extra 5hp can do for a bike this size!

It looks like you have the oiled foam dome air filter like I do on the 3A. I like the serviceability of that design.

Oh... It is in fact more difficult to get to the valves compared to the 14hp CG engine. They are deeper inside there through round caps. But that is a small inconvenience well worth the enhanced performance

That's good to know about the air filter. I haven't pulled the air box cover off yet but sure hope it is a reusable oiled filter. Does the A3 have an oil filter? I haven't verified yet but I think it uses the same oil filter as the KPR and KPM 200.

The weather is really messing up my ride time and looks like the rain will be hanging around for a while. I need to put some miles on her and get her broke in.

Thumper · 06-28-2022, 08:53 AM

I am guessing that there is a foam dome filter based on the positioning of the airfilter housing. It looks really similar to this viewed from filter side under the seat (Templar X):

And here is the filter. I think this type of dome-style filter is a high flow design. It came pre-oiled:

The engine side of the filter housing is visible here. It skirts the rear shock, as it also must on your frame. The inside of the box is silky smooth, and I am sure it is good for airflow. I hear air induction when it's running upon throttle twist. You can see the valve adjustment access caps here, barely. I suspect that the top end of the 2P and 3A are identical or almost identical. But look how close to the frame that rear cap is.

Do you see those TWO nipples on the petcock? Those are fed by each side of the gas tank. There are three positions: "dot", "R", and "R". Dot is closed, and...I haven't tested this theory, but I think this means either side of the tank can serve as a reserve.

Falkon45 · 06-28-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XLsior

out of curiosity how much of a balance shaft housing protrusion is there over a non balance shaft engine...Seeing as you've had/have both types now.

No chance of this coming to Australia with our new mandatory ABS requirements. No more new DR650s and never got the KLX300.

I doubt Lifan Australia will be bringing them either they haven't updated the Australian home page for years now.

keep looking. lifan has a ABS version of the kpm that never came here.

XLsior · 06-28-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Falkon45

keep looking. lifan has a ABS version of the kpm that never came here.

The Australian Design Rules 'ADR' Are making it very difficult for motor vehicle manufactures to sell anything new without a very costly and stringent criteria assessment.

So basically companies don't bother.

It might make Suzuki finally update the DR650...wishful thinking, But Kawasaki did refresh the KLR650.

Honda is even pulling out the trail125 due to the ABS.

There are China Bikes here but the majority are "off-road use only"

06-27-2022, 11:31 AM	#1
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 929	The difference in height from the xpect really looks like the difference in wheel diameter plus the difference in engine size (height). On the xpect, we have to remove the size plastic where it says 250 on yours to get the seat off. I miss my old Honda ATCs. Pull a lever and the seat just popped off. __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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06-27-2022, 01:49 PM	#3
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,035	Is the plug under the seat for an OBD2 scanner? If so, what data can you look at? __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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06-28-2022, 08:53 AM	#13
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,434	I am guessing that there is a foam dome filter based on the positioning of the airfilter housing. It looks really similar to this viewed from filter side under the seat (Templar X): And here is the filter. I think this type of dome-style filter is a high flow design. It came pre-oiled: The engine side of the filter housing is visible here. It skirts the rear shock, as it also must on your frame. The inside of the box is silky smooth, and I am sure it is good for airflow. I hear air induction when it's running upon throttle twist. You can see the valve adjustment access caps here, barely. I suspect that the top end of the 2P and 3A are identical or almost identical. But look how close to the frame that rear cap is. Do you see those TWO nipples on the petcock? Those are fed by each side of the gas tank. There are three positions: "dot", "R", and "R". Dot is closed, and...I haven't tested this theory, but I think this means either side of the tank can serve as a reserve. Last edited by Thumper; 06-28-2022 at 09:55 PM.
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06-27-2022, 05:23 PM	#7
CaptainCanuck Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 34	Nice bike! Shame they don't sell them in Canada. Though if they did they would probably be $5K. Enjoy, looks like a blast
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06-27-2022, 09:18 PM	#9
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,327	out of curiosity how much of a balance shaft housing protrusion is there over a non balance shaft engine...Seeing as you've had/have both types now. No chance of this coming to Australia with our new mandatory ABS requirements. No more new DR650s and never got the KLX300. I doubt Lifan Australia will be bringing them either they haven't updated the Australian home page for years now.
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06-28-2022, 08:03 AM	#11
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,434	Nice bike. Clean lines and great specs. It is good to see that 6sp version of the ZS172FMM "2P" in there. I have the "3A" 5 speed version in the Templar X, and I love it. Amazing what an extra 5hp can do for a bike this size! It looks like you have the oiled foam dome air filter like I do on the 3A. I like the serviceability of that design. Oh... It is in fact more difficult to get to the valves compared to the 14hp CG engine. They are deeper inside there through round caps. But that is a small inconvenience well worth the enhanced performance
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