Qlink XF200 Shifts Horribly - Page 4

Weldangrind · 04-17-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranbo

Hey Thinker! I once had shifting problems and it turned out all I needed to do was tighten the bolt on the gear shifter. When I moved the shifter by hand it was pretty loose. I know this is a long shot but just had to throw this out there because your bike does not have that many miles on it.

That kind of tip is very valuable. It may not solve Thinker's issue, but perhaps it will help another member. Thanks!

jct842 · 04-17-2015, 01:32 AM

Have had the loose bolt on shifter many times in the over 50 years of riding. The first few times it really threw me for a loop. The greeves I had in the late 60's used to loosen up a lot. 250cc villiers engine.

SpudRider · 04-17-2015, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranbo

Hey Thinker! I once had shifting problems and it turned out all I needed to do was tighten the bolt on the gear shifter. When I moved the shifter by hand it was pretty loose. I know this is a long shot but just had to throw this out there because your bike does not have that many miles on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That kind of tip is very valuable. It may not solve Thinker's issue, but perhaps it will help another member. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jct842

Have had the loose bolt on shifter many times in the over 50 years of riding. The first few times it really threw me for a loop. The greeves I had in the late 60's used to loosen up a lot. 250cc villiers engine.

Indeed, this is an excellent tip. To prevent this problem I get a slightly longer bolt from the hardware store which extends beyond the shift lever. I then install a nut on the end of the bolt to lock it tight.

The Thinker · 04-17-2015, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranbo

Hey Thinker! I once had shifting problems and it turned out all I needed to do was tighten the bolt on the gear shifter. When I moved the shifter by hand it was pretty loose. I know this is a long shot but just had to throw this out there because your bike does not have that many miles on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That kind of tip is very valuable. It may not solve Thinker's issue, but perhaps it will help another member. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jct842

Have had the loose bolt on shifter many times in the over 50 years of riding. The first few times it really threw me for a loop. The greeves I had in the late 60's used to loosen up a lot. 250cc villiers engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Indeed, this is an excellent tip. To prevent this problem I get a slightly longer bolt from the hardware store which extends beyond the shift lever. I then install a nut on the end of the bolt to lock it tight.

I completely agree, this is a very helpful tip that I can see helping many future riders who cant figure out whats going on with their transmission. Sadly, this is not the issue with my bike since I just did a once over of my bike last week tightening everything up (plus I just ran out to check it

).

One thing I did notice was when my bike is off, the shifting action is very smooth like you would expect it to be. It is only when its running that it becomes clunky and choppy. Does this mean anything?

Jibberwobble · 04-17-2015, 03:56 AM

Ha! I was clonking my old air cooled engine through its gears the other day by operating the shifter by hand, it's coupled through a transverse shaft on the end of a UJ and bell crank and ends up on the other side of the bike. I was suddenly alarmed to notice that my new fandagled mechanism has a whole bunch of play in it. After a frantic search around the chassis was eventually relieved to find that I hadn't done 'that' bolt up last time I popped it on for trial fit!

Ranbo · 04-17-2015, 03:15 PM

Hmm... now you really have my brain spinning T. Thinker. I can tell that you are really mechanically inclined. Runs fine in neutral and with clutch fully engaged with no creep forward. Shifts smooth with engine off. You have done and check everything that I would have without tearing into the thing. I have no doubt you will figure out what the problem is. Keep us posted!

The Thinker · 04-17-2015, 04:09 PM

I will definitely keep you guys posted. I plan on tearing into the transmission this weekend and will no doubt find the problem. I will be sure to take lots pics along to way!

Ranbo · 04-19-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

Indeed, this is an excellent tip. To prevent this problem I get a slightly longer bolt from the hardware store which extends beyond the shift lever. I then install a nut on the end of the bolt to lock it tight.

Thanks for this SpudRider. I will see if I can get this done today.

The Thinker · 04-22-2015, 08:14 PM

Ok, so today I went out to the garage, got all my tools ready, and began to remove the clutch cover to get into the engine. I saw that I had to remove the giant hex key bolt that holds on the foot stand to allow room for the wrenches and the clutch cover to slide off the kick start. So I go and find the perfect fitting hex key, put it in, and guess what? The bolt head completely strips out. I have absolutely no way to get into the clutch and am guessing im going to need to pay some money to have this taken care of (even though I bought an XF200 for the low cost). I'm kinda ranting, but also hope you guys have some advice here.

Weldangrind · 04-22-2015, 09:00 PM

Please show us a pic.

The Thinker · 04-22-2015, 09:08 PM

Pics show how far open it can go before being stopped by the footpeg.

I'm really hoping I don't need to spend big money on this bike.

The Thinker · 04-22-2015, 11:06 PM

Normally I would just cut a notch in the screw and put a flathead against one side and use a hammer to rotate it in increments till it comes out, however this screw was so tight that it stripped out (the hex key was a tight fit). If it is my only option, I might just do that anyway and replace the bolt if I can get it out.

Adjuster · 04-22-2015, 11:09 PM

You can try notching it but I think you are going to have to drill it out.

If you do notch it try to get an impact driver to bust it loose.

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The Thinker · 04-22-2015, 11:17 PM

I did not think of that, I just bought an impact driver from harbor freight a couple months ago and think that might do the trick. What would the proper way be to drill it out if push comes to shove? If I do drill it out, would it be worth it to buy a left hand drill bit set just in case it comes loose so it would come out with the drill bit?

Weldangrind · 04-23-2015, 01:52 AM

I'd just drill the head off, remove that bracket and then clamp vise grips on the remaining stud.

04-17-2015, 03:56 AM	#50
Jibberwobble Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: south west (uk) Posts: 106	Ha! I was clonking my old air cooled engine through its gears the other day by operating the shifter by hand, it's coupled through a transverse shaft on the end of a UJ and bell crank and ends up on the other side of the bike. I was suddenly alarmed to notice that my new fandagled mechanism has a whole bunch of play in it. After a frantic search around the chassis was eventually relieved to find that I hadn't done 'that' bolt up last time I popped it on for trial fit! __________________ Last edited by Jibberwobble; 04-17-2015 at 03:58 AM. Reason: typo
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04-22-2015, 09:00 PM	#55
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Please show us a pic. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-22-2015, 09:08 PM	#56
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	Pics show how far open it can go before being stopped by the footpeg. I'm really hoping I don't need to spend big money on this bike. Last edited by The Thinker; 04-22-2015 at 10:15 PM.
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04-23-2015, 01:52 AM	#60
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I'd just drill the head off, remove that bracket and then clamp vise grips on the remaining stud. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-17-2015, 01:32 AM	#47
jct842 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: arkansas Posts: 297	Have had the loose bolt on shifter many times in the over 50 years of riding. The first few times it really threw me for a loop. The greeves I had in the late 60's used to loosen up a lot. 250cc villiers engine.
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04-17-2015, 03:15 PM	#51
Ranbo Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 70	Hmm... now you really have my brain spinning T. Thinker. I can tell that you are really mechanically inclined. Runs fine in neutral and with clutch fully engaged with no creep forward. Shifts smooth with engine off. You have done and check everything that I would have without tearing into the thing. I have no doubt you will figure out what the problem is. Keep us posted!
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04-17-2015, 04:09 PM	#52
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I will definitely keep you guys posted. I plan on tearing into the transmission this weekend and will no doubt find the problem. I will be sure to take lots pics along to way!
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04-22-2015, 08:14 PM	#54
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	Ok, so today I went out to the garage, got all my tools ready, and began to remove the clutch cover to get into the engine. I saw that I had to remove the giant hex key bolt that holds on the foot stand to allow room for the wrenches and the clutch cover to slide off the kick start. So I go and find the perfect fitting hex key, put it in, and guess what? The bolt head completely strips out. I have absolutely no way to get into the clutch and am guessing im going to need to pay some money to have this taken care of (even though I bought an XF200 for the low cost). I'm kinda ranting, but also hope you guys have some advice here.
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04-22-2015, 11:06 PM	#57
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	Normally I would just cut a notch in the screw and put a flathead against one side and use a hammer to rotate it in increments till it comes out, however this screw was so tight that it stripped out (the hex key was a tight fit). If it is my only option, I might just do that anyway and replace the bolt if I can get it out.
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04-22-2015, 11:09 PM	#58
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	You can try notching it but I think you are going to have to drill it out. If you do notch it try to get an impact driver to bust it loose. /
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04-22-2015, 11:17 PM	#59
The Thinker Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 138	I did not think of that, I just bought an impact driver from harbor freight a couple months ago and think that might do the trick. What would the proper way be to drill it out if push comes to shove? If I do drill it out, would it be worth it to buy a left hand drill bit set just in case it comes loose so it would come out with the drill bit?
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