Arizona Templar - Page 4

Zapkin · 03-07-2024, 08:12 PM

wow..great bike great photos...im jealous!

vividpixel · 05-10-2024, 11:15 AM

Thank you for that howto on disabling the brake requirement. Finally did that on mine yesterday! My start switch had been replaced with an identical one but has different wire colors, so for me it was yellow-red that needed to be cut and connected to the brake switch.

K'hermiit · 08-05-2024, 08:33 AM

Before I left for vacation back in June, I had parked the bike in the shop for some maintenance when I returned. The turn signal switch was giving me grief, and the head bearings had the slightest amount of slop in them, so I decided to tear it all down for inspection. The bearings were ok thankfully, and just needed a tad more preload. I greased the living piss out of the bearings, since there was very little grease on them, and filled the head cavity with grease while reassembling.

While it was apart...I had a crazy idea. We all know the stock headlight sucks, and I had installed some led spots on either side of the forks, but decided to go a step further...

So I built a headframe to hang everything off of. This eliminated the stock headlight pod, and gave me a better location to hang the gauge and switch so I could see them better. The top LED is the Low beam, and on high beam...BOTH lights come on.
This is the Tusk Mini handlebar switch to replace my crunchy feeling stock turn signal switch. It feels 100% better than the original.

The wire colors were almost exactly the same after testing them all! I used solder heat shrink connections and attached to the original plug.

Fabricated a new windscreen and heat formed it over a big piece of pipe.

Rode the bike to work a couple of times last week...and I love the changes. It's not dark enough to really test the headlights, but I think they will be a great improvement over the stock configuration.

bigdano711 · 08-05-2024, 10:37 AM

Very nicely done! I'm saving up for my Templar...

K'hermiit · 08-05-2024, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdano711

Very nicely done! I'm saving up for my Templar...

Thanks! I'm having a lot of fun with mine, so I bet you will too.

FastKart1 · 08-19-2024, 02:05 PM

Great info on the "no brake" start mod. I was thinking it over....it is a real important mod if you trail ride. We all think no big deal if the battery dies, just roll start it. Think about that...If you need the brakes on to get power to the ignition how are you going to roll start your bike?
I know XPRO does this for safety reasons and don't disagree with that, however, getting stuck in the woods or desert 20 miles from a road is also a safety issue. All depends on where you ride. I'm going to do the mod.

Thumper · 08-19-2024, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FastKart1

Great info on the "no brake" start mod. I was thinking it over....it is a real important mod if you trail ride. We all think no big deal if the battery dies, just roll start it. Think about that...If you need the brakes on to get power to the ignition how are you going to roll start your bike?
I know XPRO does this for safety reasons and don't disagree with that, however, getting stuck in the woods or desert 20 miles from a road is also a safety issue. All depends on where you ride. I'm going to do the mod.

FYI-

The brake-start lockout affects the starter only. You can roll start without brake pull. You can test this on a convenient hill so you don't have to work hard, but believe it!!!

The bike runs when the key is turned on. The starter has a safety circuit. Two separate things.

K'hermiit · 08-20-2024, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastKart1

Great info on the "no brake" start mod. I was thinking it over....it is a real important mod if you trail ride. We all think no big deal if the battery dies, just roll start it. Think about that...If you need the brakes on to get power to the ignition how are you going to roll start your bike?
I know XPRO does this for safety reasons and don't disagree with that, however, getting stuck in the woods or desert 20 miles from a road is also a safety issue. All depends on where you ride. I'm going to do the mod.

Like Thumper said, it doesn't affect the bike's ability to be roll started. It sure makes life a lot easier having it disabled, but I'm a big boy and don't mind the risk of a convenient start button.

GypsyR · 08-21-2024, 11:09 AM

I found the brake/start thing a bit annoying from the get go. For a while bypassing that was on my to-do list. But about three times now when I went to go start the bike the starter button was hung. This meant with the key on as soon as I touched the brake it started cranking. If it wasn't my habit to (usually) crank up in neutral AND holding the clutch in, that could be a problem. As is it's just startling. I kind of only want it to crank when I hold the button in. Curiously it doesn't make the starter run with the bike on so no harm being done there. So holding off on modding anything until I can figure out why the button randomly sticks.

Thumper · 08-21-2024, 11:19 AM

I discovered that the starter button will get stuck of the screws holding it on the handlebars are too tight.

Loosen them a bit, starter button won't hang

GypsyR · 08-21-2024, 02:09 PM

Too tight? Would not have thought that, will give it a shot.

Thumper · 08-21-2024, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyR

Too tight? Would not have thought that, will give it a shot.

Yup. I made the discovery while we were putting my son's X together this Spring. The button was working fine until we adjusted it stuff on the handlebars and reinstalled it. The button got hard to push and stuck badly. Loosening the screws was a long shot. But it worked. The screws haven't fallen out, maybe some blue loctite wouldn't hurt.

Aussie_in_MO · 08-21-2024, 08:11 PM

Found the same on my Templar, if the screw closest to the switch is too tight then the switch will hang up. Backed it off about 1/8-1/4 turn and it's been fine ever since

K'hermiit · 08-22-2024, 08:30 AM

Ditto... my switch did the same until I loosened the screw next to the button like the others.

03-07-2024, 08:12 PM	#46
Zapkin Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Ohio Valley Posts: 745	wow..great bike great photos...im jealous! __________________ 2022 Hawk 250
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05-10-2024, 11:15 AM	#47
vividpixel Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Nevada, USA Posts: 116	Thank you for that howto on disabling the brake requirement. Finally did that on mine yesterday! My start switch had been replaced with an identical one but has different wire colors, so for me it was yellow-red that needed to be cut and connected to the brake switch. __________________ Really special rider. Probably out on the rocky dirt, breaking something, or in the garage, breaking something. Templar X 250 (X7-CB250F): 13t/45t \| X-ring \| PE30 \| K772 DT
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08-05-2024, 10:37 AM	#49
bigdano711 Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Big Piney, WY Posts: 623	Very nicely done! I'm saving up for my Templar... __________________ 2023 Hawk 250 from XPRO off of Amazon MOUNTAIN MAN RC + MOTO on YouTube "If there were more bloody noses, there would be less wars." - Hagbard Celine John 2:15 So He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; He scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
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08-21-2024, 11:09 AM	#54
GypsyR Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 350	I found the brake/start thing a bit annoying from the get go. For a while bypassing that was on my to-do list. But about three times now when I went to go start the bike the starter button was hung. This meant with the key on as soon as I touched the brake it started cranking. If it wasn't my habit to (usually) crank up in neutral AND holding the clutch in, that could be a problem. As is it's just startling. I kind of only want it to crank when I hold the button in. Curiously it doesn't make the starter run with the bike on so no harm being done there. So holding off on modding anything until I can figure out why the button randomly sticks. __________________ 2023 Templar 250 X
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08-21-2024, 11:19 AM	#55
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,764	Starter button stuck? I discovered that the starter button will get stuck of the screws holding it on the handlebars are too tight. Loosen them a bit, starter button won't hang __________________ No matter where you go, there you are
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08-05-2024, 08:33 AM	#48
K'hermiit Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Central Arizona Posts: 60	Before I left for vacation back in June, I had parked the bike in the shop for some maintenance when I returned. The turn signal switch was giving me grief, and the head bearings had the slightest amount of slop in them, so I decided to tear it all down for inspection. The bearings were ok thankfully, and just needed a tad more preload. I greased the living piss out of the bearings, since there was very little grease on them, and filled the head cavity with grease while reassembling. While it was apart...I had a crazy idea. We all know the stock headlight sucks, and I had installed some led spots on either side of the forks, but decided to go a step further... So I built a headframe to hang everything off of. This eliminated the stock headlight pod, and gave me a better location to hang the gauge and switch so I could see them better. The top LED is the Low beam, and on high beam...BOTH lights come on. This is the Tusk Mini handlebar switch to replace my crunchy feeling stock turn signal switch. It feels 100% better than the original. The wire colors were almost exactly the same after testing them all! I used solder heat shrink connections and attached to the original plug. Fabricated a new windscreen and heat formed it over a big piece of pipe. Rode the bike to work a couple of times last week...and I love the changes. It's not dark enough to really test the headlights, but I think they will be a great improvement over the stock configuration.
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08-19-2024, 02:05 PM	#51
FastKart1 Join Date: Aug 2024 Location: Central Massachusetts Posts: 2	Great info on the "no brake" start mod. I was thinking it over....it is a real important mod if you trail ride. We all think no big deal if the battery dies, just roll start it. Think about that...If you need the brakes on to get power to the ignition how are you going to roll start your bike? I know XPRO does this for safety reasons and don't disagree with that, however, getting stuck in the woods or desert 20 miles from a road is also a safety issue. All depends on where you ride. I'm going to do the mod.
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08-21-2024, 02:09 PM	#56
GypsyR Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 350	Too tight? Would not have thought that, will give it a shot. __________________ 2023 Templar 250 X
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08-21-2024, 08:11 PM	#58
Aussie_in_MO Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 203	Found the same on my Templar, if the screw closest to the switch is too tight then the switch will hang up. Backed it off about 1/8-1/4 turn and it's been fine ever since __________________ ---------- 2023 Templar X 2009 Triumph Bonneville 1976 Yamaha DT175 1974 Honda MT125
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08-22-2024, 08:30 AM	#59
K'hermiit Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Central Arizona Posts: 60	Ditto... my switch did the same until I loosened the screw next to the button like the others.
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