Secrets out - Pitster LXT 400 - Page 4

daddy469 · 09-02-2010, 08:56 AM

I have a couple of observations I need to add as I've been riding this puppy under the radar to work.

The exhaust shield touches your leg and although it never gets "burn your leg hot" it does get quite warm - so shorts are out (and yes you shouldn't wear shorts anyway, but it happens).

Riding 2-up there is a mystery box that is held in by two tiny screws on two tiny dog ears that can easily be kicked off by accident. I have since 'adjusted' this with zip ties, but out of the box over time this thing will work / get kicked off.

I have girl hands so the clutch and brake levers are pretty big (to me at least) takes some getting used to.

Daddy

Weldangrind · 09-02-2010, 10:17 AM

Got a pic of said mystery box?

daddy469 · 09-02-2010, 10:18 AM

I'll go get one now

Daddy 8)

daddy469 · 09-02-2010, 11:50 AM

Here is the mystery box. Note is location right next to a honey peg.
Daddy 8)

FastDoc · 09-02-2010, 12:17 PM

Looks like some emission control nonsense. Maybe a charcoal canister or fuel vapor catcher?

I'd think about $hitcanning it.

FastDoc · 09-02-2010, 12:18 PM

What did you pay?

I can kinda fantasize about selling Q and the Yamaha 400 and getting one as it would fill the role of commuter and dirt bike well.

Problem is I'm emotionally attached to Q and the Yamaha...

Weldangrind · 09-02-2010, 12:52 PM

Yep, I'd make the mystery box go away, once the bike is properly titled and plated.

Maybe an aftermarket exhaust is in order to solve the heat shield issue. As an example, look at Spud's before and after exhaust pics on his Zong. The Yamaha head pipe is a much nicer fit than the OEM stuff. You might find a head pipe that is a much better fit also (perhaps from a DR400?).

Cal25 · 09-02-2010, 12:55 PM

If the exhaust has a cat in it, it will create lots of extra heat.

I would guess that the Mystery Box is a charcoal canister as well. certainlt emissions hardware.

daddy469 · 09-02-2010, 01:20 PM

The "manual" does mention emissions control.... I will 86 it as soon as I get the title and all that joy. As far as a new pipe: It would need to be a 1:1 fit as I am the world's worst welder. Just eyeballing it won't do the trick methinks. If there is a cat in there I'm going in and 'adjusting' it. Even slow trail riding in pants you aren't going to get burned, but it is warm and can deliver a good start to you if you aren't ready for it.

Doc - it was just a hair shy of 3K delivered to my door

Daddy 8)

SpudRider · 09-02-2010, 01:33 PM

I agree with the others; the "mystery box" has got to be some kind of fuel vapor cannister. :roll: I would definitely ditch it as soon as I got my license plate.

If the engine is a Xingyue design, and not a clone of a Japanese engine, modifying the bike will be more challenging; if this is this case, welding/fabricating skills will be a big asset.

P.S. A rumor is circulating that a newer model of this motorcycle will be fuel injected, to meet emissions standards. If true, this development could be either good, or bad, depending on the price difference, and the reliability of the new electronics.

Spud

daddy469 · 09-02-2010, 01:53 PM

It kinda has a license plate on it :twisted:
Daddy 8)

FastDoc · 09-02-2010, 02:05 PM

3K huh?

Good price but couldn't swing it now. Max I could get from Q and my 400 would be about 2K and that would be pushing it.

I'm happy. Its all good.

katoranger · 09-02-2010, 02:09 PM

Noticed in the pic that is has GY400xingyue on the plastic. That confirms up any doubt to its origins.

I wonder what big four exhaust may be the closest match.

culcune · 09-02-2010, 09:23 PM

I've been away for a while but one of us finally got a Pitster!! I remember when the 400 Xingyues came out a couple years ago and we all debated and speculated what they were like. I don't think any of the members bought one, although some of the members on Mychinamoto own them, but they kind of don't count because they live in South America or Asia

I hope to read ongoing reports on this bike, and hopefully someone with one of the 250's will start a thread.

Congrats, Daddy!![/i]

Cal25 · 09-03-2010, 08:52 AM

Everybody counts here :wink:

09-02-2010, 10:17 AM	#47
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Got a pic of said mystery box? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-02-2010, 11:50 AM	#49
daddy469 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 293	Mysterby box Here is the mystery box. Note is location right next to a honey peg. Daddy 8)
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09-02-2010, 12:17 PM	#50
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Looks like some emission control nonsense. Maybe a charcoal canister or fuel vapor catcher? I'd think about $hitcanning it. __________________ Happy to serve.
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09-02-2010, 12:18 PM	#51
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	What did you pay? I can kinda fantasize about selling Q and the Yamaha 400 and getting one as it would fill the role of commuter and dirt bike well. Problem is I'm emotionally attached to Q and the Yamaha... __________________ Happy to serve.
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09-02-2010, 12:52 PM	#52
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Yep, I'd make the mystery box go away, once the bike is properly titled and plated. Maybe an aftermarket exhaust is in order to solve the heat shield issue. As an example, look at Spud's before and after exhaust pics on his Zong. The Yamaha head pipe is a much nicer fit than the OEM stuff. You might find a head pipe that is a much better fit also (perhaps from a DR400?). __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-02-2010, 08:56 AM	#46
daddy469 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 293	I have a couple of observations I need to add as I've been riding this puppy under the radar to work. The exhaust shield touches your leg and although it never gets "burn your leg hot" it does get quite warm - so shorts are out (and yes you shouldn't wear shorts anyway, but it happens). Riding 2-up there is a mystery box that is held in by two tiny screws on two tiny dog ears that can easily be kicked off by accident. I have since 'adjusted' this with zip ties, but out of the box over time this thing will work / get kicked off. I have girl hands so the clutch and brake levers are pretty big (to me at least) takes some getting used to. Daddy
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09-02-2010, 10:18 AM	#48
daddy469 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 293	I'll go get one now Daddy 8)
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09-02-2010, 12:55 PM	#53
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	If the exhaust has a cat in it, it will create lots of extra heat. I would guess that the Mystery Box is a charcoal canister as well. certainlt emissions hardware.
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09-02-2010, 01:20 PM	#54
daddy469 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 293	The "manual" does mention emissions control.... I will 86 it as soon as I get the title and all that joy. As far as a new pipe: It would need to be a 1:1 fit as I am the world's worst welder. Just eyeballing it won't do the trick methinks. If there is a cat in there I'm going in and 'adjusting' it. Even slow trail riding in pants you aren't going to get burned, but it is warm and can deliver a good start to you if you aren't ready for it. Doc - it was just a hair shy of 3K delivered to my door Daddy 8)
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09-02-2010, 01:33 PM	#55
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I agree with the others; the "mystery box" has got to be some kind of fuel vapor cannister. :roll: I would definitely ditch it as soon as I got my license plate. If the engine is a Xingyue design, and not a clone of a Japanese engine, modifying the bike will be more challenging; if this is this case, welding/fabricating skills will be a big asset. P.S. A rumor is circulating that a newer model of this motorcycle will be fuel injected, to meet emissions standards. If true, this development could be either good, or bad, depending on the price difference, and the reliability of the new electronics. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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09-02-2010, 01:53 PM	#56
daddy469 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 293	It kinda has a license plate on it :twisted: Daddy 8)
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09-02-2010, 02:05 PM	#57
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	3K huh? Good price but couldn't swing it now. Max I could get from Q and my 400 would be about 2K and that would be pushing it. I'm happy. Its all good. __________________ Happy to serve.
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09-02-2010, 02:09 PM	#58
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Noticed in the pic that is has GY400xingyue on the plastic. That confirms up any doubt to its origins. I wonder what big four exhaust may be the closest match.
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09-02-2010, 09:23 PM	#59
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I've been away for a while but one of us finally got a Pitster!! I remember when the 400 Xingyues came out a couple years ago and we all debated and speculated what they were like. I don't think any of the members bought one, although some of the members on Mychinamoto own them, but they kind of don't count because they live in South America or Asia I hope to read ongoing reports on this bike, and hopefully someone with one of the 250's will start a thread. Congrats, Daddy!![/i]
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09-03-2010, 08:52 AM	#60
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Everybody counts here :wink:
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