Hawk 250 Nuetral & Transmission Problem - Page 4

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-05-2017, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andizzle

Ok so I got the cover off I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be looking for so I just took a video of the inside of it to give you an idea.

OK, under the clutch, next to the plastic gear is the pawl and ratchet parts of the shift mechanism. I don't know why you are playing with the clutch. Shifting is a transmission problem. I would put the shift lever back on, and watch what is going on when you shift it. Have the bike on the center stand so that you can move the rear wheel back and forth so the gears can go into mesh...ARH

Mudflap · 10-06-2017, 06:52 AM

Everything looks normal. Do what ARH recommends to see if the shift drum indexer is working correctly.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-06-2017, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudflap

Everything looks normal. Do what ARH recommends to see if the shift drum indexer is working correctly.

^2X^ Get someone else to shift it while you video. Might help us help you figure it out.

Andizzle · 10-06-2017, 03:21 PM

Ok I'll let you guys know what happens when I get a chance to work on it.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-06-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andizzle

Ok I'll let you guys know what happens when I get a chance to work on it.

In your 1st video @ 0:11 what you want to look for is to make sure the star shaped part is rotating when it shifts and the bolt is rotating with it. If not you may have sheered the dowel pin that is behind it. If you wasn't so far away I would come by and give a hand. Might cost a few beers but would get it figured out.

You'll be a MC mechanic in no time.

timcosby · 10-06-2017, 06:51 PM

and make sure they are rotating the rear wheel back and forth while shifting or it wont shift

Andizzle · 10-06-2017, 10:37 PM

I need to wait until tomorrow and see if I can get a stand to set it on. If the wheel moves will that make the shifter catch? As of right now the springs not pushed all the way in to move it into gear.

Andizzle · 10-06-2017, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

In your 1st video @ 0:11 what you want to look for is to make sure the star shaped part is rotating when it shifts and the bolt is rotating with it. If not you may have sheered the dowel pin that is behind it. If you wasn't so far away I would come by and give a hand. Might cost a few beers but would get it figured out.

You'll be a MC mechanic in no time.

That would be sweet. Thanks to everyone that's helped. I just saw these posts after I had already taken the video showing the shifter and I wasn't sure about having to set it on the stand to get it to engage. I'll try to get that stand tomorrow and set it on there to spin the wheel.

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-07-2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andizzle

I need to wait until tomorrow and see if I can get a stand to set it on. If the wheel moves will that make the shifter catch? As of right now the springs not pushed all the way in to move it into gear.

Baasically yes. It has a constant-mesh tranmission, gear engagement by dog clutches. So you have to rotate the rear wheel back and forth for it to shift through all of the gears.

Andizzle · 10-08-2017, 07:34 PM

I put it up on a stand and had someone help me spin the back wheel and move the shifter while I filmed it. The first video is regular speed and the second one is slowed down towards the middle.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-09-2017, 10:11 AM

After watching the video I realized the real issue. The shift stopper arm and wheel are stuck behind the shifter plate. The wheel should be riding on the shifter plate. Look in the manual I sent you and you will see exactly what I am talking about. you may be able to take a screw driver and pop it back in place. Just make sure it lines up with the stopper plate after. The arm doesn't looked bent. Not sure how it could of gotten there in the first place.

Andizzle · 10-09-2017, 11:15 AM

Thanks! What page would it be on in the manual? And is it the one for the Storm or the other bike?

**JerryHawk250** · 10-09-2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Andizzle

Thanks! What page would it be on in the manual? And is it the one for the Storm or the other bike?

Page 9-12 (158 of 336)of the Storm Manual.

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-09-2017, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Andizzle

I put it up on a stand and had someone help me spin the back wheel and move the shifter while I filmed it. The first video is regular speed and the second one is slowed down towards the middle.

I would remove that lever that pivots on the left side with the hole in it that you can see that sort of star shaped wheel that is not turning, and see what is bent or broken on the back side of that lever/s...ARH

**JerryHawk250** · 10-09-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

I would remove that lever that pivots on the left side with the hole in it that you can see that sort of star shaped wheel that is not turning, and see what is bent or broken on the back side of that lever/s...ARH

It's not rotating because the Star shaped plate is not in the right position for the shifter plate to catch it and rotate. once he puts the stopper arm back in place so that the stopper plate is in the right position it should work.
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Andizzle Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 31	I put it up on a stand and had someone help me spin the back wheel and move the shifter while I filmed it. The first video is regular speed and the second one is slowed down towards the middle. __________________ 2014 Hawk 250
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JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,713	After watching the video I realized the real issue. The shift stopper arm and wheel are stuck behind the shifter plate. The wheel should be riding on the shifter plate. Look in the manual I sent you and you will see exactly what I am talking about. you may be able to take a screw driver and pop it back in place. Just make sure it lines up with the stopper plate after. The arm doesn't looked bent. Not sure how it could of gotten there in the first place. __________________ 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 10-09-2017 at 10:45 AM.
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Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,929	Everything looks normal. Do what ARH recommends to see if the shift drum indexer is working correctly.
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Andizzle Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 31	Thanks! What page would it be on in the manual? And is it the one for the Storm or the other bike? __________________ 2014 Hawk 250
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