01-14-2010, 03:09 PM | #46 |
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When I was young there was no free health care (where I lived). You went to your doctor: you were seen by his nurse, she determined if you, in fact, needed to see the doctor, if she could handle the problem she did, and the doctor saw only patients needing his direct care. The system HAD to be efficient, folks could not afford otherwise.
Then free health care kicked in. I have seen changes in our "free" health care system since it started. At one point you got a letter in the mail asking you to "sign off" on treatment you received for the preceding month (so the doctor got paid). I am not unhappy with our Canadian health care system as it currently stands, but it could be a lot better. I *think* something is lost between doctor and patient when a 3rd party pays the doctor (the loss being customer satisfaction). I also *think* the old model where the nurse "filters" out (and deals with) the crap is far superior (and efficient) than what we have today. (there are far too many people abusing our health system with stuff they wouldn't be if they had to pay, eg. kids with colds). |
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01-14-2010, 04:14 PM | #47 | |
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I think you are the first Canadian that is advance in years to comment. Notice I didn't call you old. Great points. In the US the use of minute clinics to take care of those small things that most nurses can handle is really spreading. Most don't take insurance and provide a service for about $20. Less than most deductibles. Typically located in pharmacies. These really can handle alot of the care placed on a GP. Downside is there is no relationship. Plus is for those without insurance or only castrophic coverage like I had in college.
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01-14-2010, 06:37 PM | #48 |
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i would encourage everyone to investigate uncle ted's solution. i have asked a couple of drs if it would work and havent herd one say it was foolish 8O
i am not a fan of his music just the ideas
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01-14-2010, 06:44 PM | #49 |
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For a while I lived in Canada's smallest Province, having moved there from Ontario, and I was personally shocked at the cost of delivering "universal health care". At that time I did some research into the thing and found 126 full time "support staff" employed Province wide per doctor. Now, I can't say as to what these people were actually doing, and I realize that some support staff is necessary, but 126? It seemed to me at the time that there were an excessive number of "friends and neighbors" of the Politicians employed.
is advance in years Careful. (the "old poop") The most important thing missing here (in Canada) is that the doctors somehow don't feel like they are employed by their patients. Back when you had to sign off so the doctor got paid they sure made a bit of effort in the customer satisfaction end of things, now it seems like they don't care if you are satisfied, or not, because they are going to get paid anyway. |
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01-14-2010, 09:04 PM | #50 |
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I like that idea that you need to sign off before the doctor gets paid. At least they would know what doctors are doing a good job to.
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01-16-2010, 12:55 PM | #53 |
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I don't know if rationed is the right word. I say delayed may be more appropriate. You probably get the care, just might have to wait alittle.
Hey we got rid of the satellite tv, and my kids think tomatoes are candy.
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