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Old 10-11-2016, 11:18 AM   #1
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You probably could. It's much faster and easier to just buy a complete China harness, although that'll take some guidance from HB.
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:45 AM   #2
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You probably could. It's much faster and easier to just buy a complete China harness, although that'll take some guidance from HB.
Good to know, wonder if they ever did make a light harness for the Gios..though the rest of the Hondoids are similar enough there may be a simple solution lurking out there.
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:55 AM   #3
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Just pondering a thought here...Since the TT250 engine is a bolt in...or pretty much should be anyway...i am wondering if CSC can get ahold of the TT250 motors by themselves? May still end up pursuing the GIO route as a donor if that is cost prohibitive.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:43 PM   #4
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Just pondering a thought here...Since the TT250 engine is a bolt in...or pretty much should be anyway...i am wondering if CSC can get ahold of the TT250 motors by themselves? May still end up pursuing the GIO route as a donor if that is cost prohibitive.
http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-...-p/zt1-100.htm

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Old 12-05-2016, 01:00 PM   #5
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The costly part will be in getting the motor across the border. An old Gio refugee is much cheaper.
True enough...seems the new X31s use a Zong engine now. Those ones may not work as they might be the larger 250 you mentioned. But there are tons of the older bike around.

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Nice! So it is def a viable option. Of course i would need to fab or buy a harness but that is probably available as a service part for the TT250 as well. Sure this route may get me close to the price of just buying a TT250 outright but would be worth it to be able to restore an old classic Honda but give it the features i like in the TT such as its electrical system.
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The costly part will be in getting the motor across the border. An old Gio refugee is much cheaper.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:48 PM   #7
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Show me a pic of the Gio you're talking about, to be sure that we're talking about the same thing. My gut reaction is that it's not actually a 250, but rather the very same motor used in the TT.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:03 PM   #8
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Show me a pic of the Gio you're talking about, to be sure that we're talking about the same thing. My gut reaction is that it's not actually a 250, but rather the very same motor used in the TT.



That is the older model



that is what the current one looks like engine wise

http://www.atvedmonton.com/images/Di...c/Default.aspx Info on the current bike
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Should be no problem fitting that into an XR200 frame; it's based on the same architecture. BTW, it's not the same motor as the TT; this one is OHC, whereas the TT is OHV.
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Old 12-06-2016, 05:11 AM   #10
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Should be no problem fitting that into an XR200 frame; it's based on the same architecture. BTW, it's not the same motor as the TT; this one is OHC, whereas the TT is OHV.

Nice! So it should be doable to fab up a hybrid harness between the XL and Gio harness to get all the functions working correctly. Biggest thing i will need to sort out is the electric start.
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:52 AM   #11
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...i will need to sort out is the electric start.
Easy as pie http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?p=226973
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A switch, a starter solenoid (The commonest chinese m/c parts are rated for 200A), a diode http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17772 (old sckool 6A/400V was recommened in Zongshen Sierra manual) , wires...
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Easy as pie http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?p=226973
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A switch, a starter solenoid (The commonest chinese m/c parts are rated for 200A), a diode http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17772 (old sckool 6A/400V was recommened in Zongshen Sierra manual) , wires...
Nice! I should have no problems splicing that into the XLs existing harness which allows me to keep the rest of the harness intact for wiring up the lights to the Gio engine.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:27 PM   #13
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gio x31 bike

Hello... I do not know if you want a whole bike.... or just the motor??? or wiring harness.... the bike I have an old x31 ,...brand new in stock... cheaper than the price you show in Edmonton... and the motor also in stock... brand new.... the x31 harness they do not stock any more... they have the heist bike harness in stock... see GVA site... let me know if you wan t a new bike or new motor... thanks
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Ok, after pondering over this thing a lot over the past few months. I have decided i am going to essentially resto mod the bike. By that i mean it will be keeping its stock engine but will be upgraded to 12 v via the methods discussed here. I suspect i can probably find a small 12 volt battery that i can lay flat under the seat similar to what Spud did on his XR. Worse comes to worse i end up adding an adjustable R/R to it to keep from blowing the headlight as that seems the be the only "Gotcha" i see when reading up on converting bikes of this engine family (XL/XR/CB) to 12 volt. Plus it has already been confirmed by our fellow CB riders that it is simply a bulb and battery change. Already seen a few methods that will allow me to adapt modern Dual sport headlight/number plate assemblies to the bike so that helps a lot. There is one headlight made by UFO i keep looking at called the Oregon. It is a dual sport light with signal lights built into it. So more then likely this will be the headlight i end up using. Granted it is only a 35 w headlight so it will probably be about as bright as the original 6 v headlight. Maybe a bit brighter due to being 12v. The 12v conversion is mostly being done to make it easier to service the bike in terms of items like the bulbs.

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Old 02-14-2017, 10:58 PM   #15
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That's sharp, how much? I like the integrated winkers (you can tell I've been reading Chinese manuals). Is that a sealed beam headlight or a replaceable bulb ?
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