Hawk Talk - Page 35

david3921 · 03-19-2017, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Sounds like the main jet is too lean (the hole isn't big enough). Luckily for you, a Mikuni main jet will screw in even though the thread pitch is different. If it has the original exhaust system a 110 or 115 main jet should do the trick...ARH

Unless the choke is in the wrong position. After warm up, make sure the choke lever is all the way down. Take it for ride and see if any of your issues have disappeared. If not, check the following;

Fresh gas?
Clean tank?
Clean tank and/or fuel filter? (there's a filter in the tank at the petcock)
Good battery?
Spark plug-right one? correct gap?

timcosby · 03-20-2017, 01:13 AM

i always just start riding with the choke on and then flip it down while riding. mine is still cold natured too. aint got time for no warming up nonsense

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-23-2017, 09:45 AM

It has been quiet around here for a while. ARH is waiting for information on the latest greatest thing from China since sliced bread. It is hard to accept the tried and true vs the new and exciting, so I'm waiting for enough reports to come in on the latest wonder bikes from China, looking for ways to weasel their way into our wallets. It remains to be seen how much better the Enforcer is compared to the Hawk, for example. Certainly the less hassle about registering them is a plus. In those states that cause hassles. A lot of the hassle can be avoided if you make sure the MCO from the distributor states it is a motorcycle, instead of a dirt bike. I must say, so far, the first reports on the Enforcer are very good. But I think I will wait on a larger sample before I jump on the bandwagon. As to the others coming on the market, to me the most important point is wheel size. It is difficult to get all of the different tread types in any size other than 21inch, or 18 inch...ARH

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-26-2017, 08:03 PM

A rider posted on this forum that he went for a ride the other day, and the rear tire was flat. OK, tires go flat, from time to time. But what he found when he broke down the tire was disturbing. What he found was some kind of oily, slippery fluid inside the wheel, coated on the tube and on the inside of the tire. This came from the factory, as it was a new bike. He thinks the slimy tire slipped on the rim, and pinched the tube. Could be, I guess. I suggest that when you assemble the bike you unscrew the the Schroeder valve to let the air out, and then use a tire spoon to break the bead loose in one spot and see if there is any of that stuff inside your tire. If there is, better break that tire down and get every trace of whatever that stuff is totally cleaned from the tire, the tube, and the inside of the wheel. I hope this was a one time screw up at the factory, and we never see it again, but people need to be aware this happened once already, so could happen again...ARH

**JerryHawk250** · 03-27-2017, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

A rider posted on this forum that he went for a ride the other day, and the rear tire was flat. OK, tires go flat, from time to time. But what he found when he broke down the tire was disturbing. What he found was some kind of oily, slippery fluid inside the wheel, coated on the tube and on the inside of the tire. This came from the factory, as it was a new bike. He thinks the slimy tire slipped on the rim, and pinched the tube. Could be, I guess. I suggest that when you assemble the bike you unscrew the the Schroeder valve to let the air out, and then use a tire spoon to break the bead loose in one spot and see if there is any of that stuff inside your tire. If there is, better break that tire down and get every trace of whatever that stuff is totally cleaned from the tire, the tube, and the inside of the wheel. I hope this was a one time screw up at the factory, and we never see it again, but people need to be aware this happened once already, so could happen again...ARH

That would be me. Yes it was like the oil they use in the engine and stunk. The problem is it was on the tire and rim bead so even if you have the tire at full pressure I think it cold still slide under hard acceleration or breaking. I used 409 which cleaned it up pretty good and I used windex to lubricate the tire when putting it back on. I haven't taken the front tire down yet but I bet I find the same thing.

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-27-2017, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

That would be me. Yes it was like the oil they use in the engine and stunk. The problem is it was on the tire and rim bead so even if you have the tire at full pressure I think it cold still slide under hard acceleration or breaking. I used 409 which cleaned it up pretty good and I used windex to lubricate the tire when putting it back on. I haven't taken the front tire down yet but I bet I find the same thing.

I hope that was a one time occurance. Some kind of glitch at the factory...ARH

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-28-2017, 04:38 PM

I guess I think that I should explain that I only offer suggestions on here based on 67 years of motorcycling. and I occasionally dredge up reminices of various (English) bikes I have been impressed by. Or deafend by. Or terrified by. Or requiring constant fixing. Ariel Red Hunters and Square Fours were the best motor cycles I've ever ridden. Better than BMW's? Yes. For me. Triumphs could terrify me. I'm going to recite Slammin' Sammy Tanner (also known as Stuttering Sammy Tanner) on Triumph frames. After turning a couple of hot laps at Ascot, he breezed into the pits, shaking his head, "B-B-B-Boy, this spagetti framed Triumph wants to walk me all over the race track." "When I turn it on, coming out of either corner, I never know if I'm going to come out high, low, or where. Could get interesting when there are 16 other bikes out there". Deafend by: Greeves scramblers with a 9 inch megaphone exhaust coming right out of the exhaust port. Constant fixing: A James Cadet 125 two stroke. What a pile of bits that was. Another terrifying one, A Vincent Black Shadow with a grabby clutch. Trying to cross 4 lanes of traffic on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills, California.

hertz9753 · 03-29-2017, 10:27 PM

That reminded me of you military bike post.

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-29-2017, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

That reminded me of you military bike post.

Yeah it does, doesn't it. Thanks for finding it. I've never seen it before....ARH

timcosby · 03-30-2017, 02:58 AM

"then theres a great sorting out!" been there done that! usually the first turn in motocross.

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-30-2017, 07:30 PM

Several riders have posted on this forum about changing rims on some C/B's in order to get 21 inch fronts and 18 inch rears. Now to help you guys out, I've found a couple of tutorials on lacing and trueing wheels in the simplest procedure I've ever seen. Now this guy is a little hard to understand because of his accent and choice of words, so watch them both over and over until you understand how simple it is if you do it right. It's very logical, once you get your mind wrapped around what he's telling you and showing you. Now don't get all excited because he's talking about building a BSA B-25 trials bike. Wire wheels are wire wheels, no matter what they are mounted on. So, Britannia Motor Cycles, BM 250 Trials, part 10 (1), and part 10 (2). Watch and learn.....ARH

goat67 · 03-30-2017, 08:55 PM

Thanks for posting this very educational I learned a lot. He sure makes it look easy I am sure if I tried it would not go as quick but I Think I could get it done.

Ariel Red Hunter · 03-30-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by goat67

Thanks for posting this very educational I learned a lot. He sure makes it look easy I am sure if I tried it would not go as quick but I Think I could get it done.

I know you can get it done. He's teaching in all of his videos, not showing off. He wants you to succeed. I'm glad you found it educational...ARH

Ariel Red Hunter · 04-01-2017, 08:11 AM

One of our members had his drive chain jump off the drive sprocket, and he can't shift it out of low gear. He has 3000 miles on the bike, so I don't know if this will be covered under warranty. He is pretty likely going to have to split the cases in order to fix this. Or try to find one that's been in a highway accident, but still with a good motor to try in his bike. For the rest of us, it seems to me, this is a warning to buy and install a new chain! Replace that nickel-dime chain that comes on these bikes sooner, not later. I can't stand the sight of grown men crying!...ARH

goat67 · 04-01-2017, 08:43 AM

What is the best way to set / check the chain tension for these bikes?

03-20-2017, 01:13 AM	#512
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	i always just start riding with the choke on and then flip it down while riding. mine is still cold natured too. aint got time for no warming up nonsense __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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03-23-2017, 09:45 AM	#513
Ariel Red Hunter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: akwesasne, NY-13655 Posts: 2,220	It's been quiet around here It has been quiet around here for a while. ARH is waiting for information on the latest greatest thing from China since sliced bread. It is hard to accept the tried and true vs the new and exciting, so I'm waiting for enough reports to come in on the latest wonder bikes from China, looking for ways to weasel their way into our wallets. It remains to be seen how much better the Enforcer is compared to the Hawk, for example. Certainly the less hassle about registering them is a plus. In those states that cause hassles. A lot of the hassle can be avoided if you make sure the MCO from the distributor states it is a motorcycle, instead of a dirt bike. I must say, so far, the first reports on the Enforcer are very good. But I think I will wait on a larger sample before I jump on the bandwagon. As to the others coming on the market, to me the most important point is wheel size. It is difficult to get all of the different tread types in any size other than 21inch, or 18 inch...ARH
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03-26-2017, 08:03 PM	#514
Ariel Red Hunter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: akwesasne, NY-13655 Posts: 2,220	Spokes and tires. A rider posted on this forum that he went for a ride the other day, and the rear tire was flat. OK, tires go flat, from time to time. But what he found when he broke down the tire was disturbing. What he found was some kind of oily, slippery fluid inside the wheel, coated on the tube and on the inside of the tire. This came from the factory, as it was a new bike. He thinks the slimy tire slipped on the rim, and pinched the tube. Could be, I guess. I suggest that when you assemble the bike you unscrew the the Schroeder valve to let the air out, and then use a tire spoon to break the bead loose in one spot and see if there is any of that stuff inside your tire. If there is, better break that tire down and get every trace of whatever that stuff is totally cleaned from the tire, the tube, and the inside of the wheel. I hope this was a one time screw up at the factory, and we never see it again, but people need to be aware this happened once already, so could happen again...ARH
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03-28-2017, 04:38 PM	#517
Ariel Red Hunter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: akwesasne, NY-13655 Posts: 2,220	About ARH... I guess I think that I should explain that I only offer suggestions on here based on 67 years of motorcycling. and I occasionally dredge up reminices of various (English) bikes I have been impressed by. Or deafend by. Or terrified by. Or requiring constant fixing. Ariel Red Hunters and Square Fours were the best motor cycles I've ever ridden. Better than BMW's? Yes. For me. Triumphs could terrify me. I'm going to recite Slammin' Sammy Tanner (also known as Stuttering Sammy Tanner) on Triumph frames. After turning a couple of hot laps at Ascot, he breezed into the pits, shaking his head, "B-B-B-Boy, this spagetti framed Triumph wants to walk me all over the race track." "When I turn it on, coming out of either corner, I never know if I'm going to come out high, low, or where. Could get interesting when there are 16 other bikes out there". Deafend by: Greeves scramblers with a 9 inch megaphone exhaust coming right out of the exhaust port. Constant fixing: A James Cadet 125 two stroke. What a pile of bits that was. Another terrifying one, A Vincent Black Shadow with a grabby clutch. Trying to cross 4 lanes of traffic on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills, California.
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03-29-2017, 10:27 PM	#518
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	That reminded me of you military bike post. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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03-30-2017, 02:58 AM	#520
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	"then theres a great sorting out!" been there done that! usually the first turn in motocross. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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03-30-2017, 07:30 PM	#521
Ariel Red Hunter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: akwesasne, NY-13655 Posts: 2,220	rims and spokes Several riders have posted on this forum about changing rims on some C/B's in order to get 21 inch fronts and 18 inch rears. Now to help you guys out, I've found a couple of tutorials on lacing and trueing wheels in the simplest procedure I've ever seen. Now this guy is a little hard to understand because of his accent and choice of words, so watch them both over and over until you understand how simple it is if you do it right. It's very logical, once you get your mind wrapped around what he's telling you and showing you. Now don't get all excited because he's talking about building a BSA B-25 trials bike. Wire wheels are wire wheels, no matter what they are mounted on. So, Britannia Motor Cycles, BM 250 Trials, part 10 (1), and part 10 (2). Watch and learn.....ARH Last edited by Ariel Red Hunter; 03-30-2017 at 07:31 PM. Reason: A miss spell
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03-30-2017, 08:55 PM	#522
goat67 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Twin Cities MN Posts: 525	Thanks for posting this very educational I learned a lot. He sure makes it look easy I am sure if I tried it would not go as quick but I Think I could get it done.
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04-01-2017, 08:11 AM	#524
Ariel Red Hunter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: akwesasne, NY-13655 Posts: 2,220	Heads Up Alert! One of our members had his drive chain jump off the drive sprocket, and he can't shift it out of low gear. He has 3000 miles on the bike, so I don't know if this will be covered under warranty. He is pretty likely going to have to split the cases in order to fix this. Or try to find one that's been in a highway accident, but still with a good motor to try in his bike. For the rest of us, it seems to me, this is a warning to buy and install a new chain! Replace that nickel-dime chain that comes on these bikes sooner, not later. I can't stand the sight of grown men crying!...ARH
	1

04-01-2017, 08:43 AM	#525
goat67 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Twin Cities MN Posts: 525	What is the best way to set / check the chain tension for these bikes?
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