Took a plunge... trying a PP LXR250 EFI

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by pete

when yer look at it that way... but yer get what yer pay for...

Yep, sad but true. Human condition allways wanting ...more please

[Bruce's]

The fast ace suspension on that bike costs more than a complete hawk .

[Ski_rush]

I hadn't seen the price of that bike. $3800?...almost 4 Grand!... Not that the pitster isn't nice looking... But when you get in that price bracket, it makes it tough to rationalize getting a Chinese bike over a more mainstream one.

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Wow, so you can program the f.i. tune ???

Amazing.

Is this the back door device into the rx3?

Can you show the input port to the bikes controller? This is interesting.

I'm not sure how much tuning can be done, but the software and cable make it look possible.

The picture of the cable above shows the end that plugs into the Kayo EFI; it looks very different than the RX3 EFI plug.

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by Ski_rush

I hadn't seen the price of that bike. $3800?...almost 4 Grand!... Not that the pitster isn't nice looking... But when you get in that price bracket, it makes it tough to rationalize getting a Chinese bike over a more mainstream one.

I figured this would come up. Believe me, it was a struggle.

In the end I got a waaay better price. (Closer to $3000) Plus, I could not find a used 250 with EFI. A new Wr250 is $8000, so I can buy 2.5 LXRs and still be ok. If this bike wasn't as well finished as it is, I never would have popped for it.

[BigWeld]

Originally Posted by Ski_rush

I hadn't seen the price of that bike. $3800?...almost 4 Grand!... Not that the pitster isn't nice looking... But when you get in that price bracket, it makes it tough to rationalize getting a Chinese bike over a more mainstream one.

I too am crazy jealous, and I thought that exact same thing.

BUT; when you look at the purchase price of the bike, see the quality in it's parts, and one more MAJOR thing: take all the performance mods you can think of and throw them at an Enforcer, Brozz, whatever....anddollar for dollar this bike is worth it. My Brozz was $1700 shipped to my door. Since, I've probably dumped another $500 (just guessing) so now we're up to $2200 bucks. After that money was spent I will end up with a bike with LITERALLY HALF the power-to-weight ratio that this bike has BONE STOCK. I'm a new rider and can already see myself outgrowing the Brozz. This 32hp machine may be more $ initially, but in the long run, I bet this machine gives longer lasting enjoyment.


Anybody want to buy a 2016 Brozz with only 10 miles on it? Comes with ALOT of upgrades

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by Ski_rush

The quality of that bike, just from the pics, looks leaps and bounds over what the hawk and enforcer look like... It's crazy how much better quality it looks. I'm embarrassed by my bike after seeing those pics

No need for that. I'm just happy to see that the quality is coming up! More competition=more good affordable choices for all of us!

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by pete

theres a little trick you can do....

put a 1 ohm pentometer in one of the wires then at the twist of a nob
you can tell lies to the ECU about the air temp... the ECU will richen or lean
the air/fuel ratio.... everything still works as normal but at a higher or lower
air temp ratio than what it really is...

i have one on my Yamaha XT660R.... if i'm just cruseing I lean the A/F out a bit.
or come to a hill or offroad I richen it up....




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That would be cool if I had a real-time indicator of the A/F ratio.

I'm certainly curious to see how it does on fuel economy. I've a hunch that it runs richer than necessary to make that extra power.

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by ChondaChondaChonda

I'm not sure how much tuning can be done, but the software and cable make it look possible.

The picture of the cable above shows the end that plugs into the Kayo EFI; it looks very different than the RX3 EFI plug.

Can you show the input port to the bikes controller? This is interesting.

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Can you show the input port to the bikes controller? This is interesting.

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Quick note on a cold start this morning:

1. I left the key and ignition on switch in the on position all night like a dummy. Dash was lit up when I walked into the garage. Doh!

2. It still fired right off. Idled high for a few seconds and then settled into the idle we set last night. (about 1400-1500 rpm)

Very happy about it passing this test. Biggest reason I wanted fuel injection.

[2LZ]

I didn't catch it here but yes, that's the exact motor and cooling system that's in the RX3. Not the "ZS" on the engine number, It's a Zong!
I believe this bike is advertised with more HP though....and yes, good luck getting at those valves. The intake on the RX3 isn't bad....the exhaust on the other hand....

Sweet ride!

[pete]

Originally Posted by ChondaChondaChonda

whats the 1 2 3 4 5 ?... are they diffrent pre instaled maps ?
or maybe diffrent A/F ratios quick tune ?

it look like at least one company in China has seen the light &
is trying take on the other companys in the offroad/enduro market...
& not build 30 year old budget bikes and make a very poor job of it..

it will be interesting to see if they can in fact do the job as well as look like they can..



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[ChondaChondaChonda]

Originally Posted by pete

whats the 1 2 3 4 5 ?... are they diffrent pre instaled maps ?
or maybe diffrent A/F ratios quick tune ?

...

They are mostly indicators. #5 is red fault LED:



#4 Doesn't make sense with "Always off or always off". I'm guessing it should say ON.

[ChondaChondaChonda]

Tail light fail.

Needed to get the bike inspected today. Right off the bat there was no tail light. no running or brake. So I tore into the wiring and found that it was all wired correctly but it must have been a bad light from the factory.

Luckily I had an LED strip light in the garage so I wired it in and took it to the inspection station. Passed with no issues. 22 miles round trip. I tried to take it easy and let things break in. Time for oil change #1 now.

Really like this bikes power curve and road manners are good. Gearing is too low for street use as I was cruising at 55-60 for a bit, but was near the top of 6th. 5th and 6th are too close; a good enduro should have a nice tall 6th gear like a WR or XCW style transmission IMHO. A taller 6th would make this a perfect little tug.