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09-03-2021, 07:41 PM | #1 |
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Many consumers who are not mechanically motivated or from their point of view personally invest themselves into a transport appliance, will sell and buy new after the factory support/warranty period expires...This makes resale value important for some.
At least you have the options....In Australia these Chinese road use bikes are basically non existent. There are China bike distributors. SWM, Braaap and CF Moto etc...but nothing like the RE650 I've found |
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09-03-2021, 09:44 PM | #4 | |
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That being said, I do think CSC has a few big legs up over the CF Moto bikes. For one, CF Moto was sold like most Chinese bikes, through other third party dealers. That meant warranty issues were difficult to claim, parts were hard to get, etc. CSC is an actual dedicated brand/dealer for these bikes. This means they stock the parts and honor the warranties, and they do a dang good job of it. Working_ZS said everything perfectly above with his response, and is exactly how I view it. I think the SG400 definitely fills a market gap, even if it is a niche' market. Nothing else like it really exists in the segment, so even if the pricing is on par with other similar displacement bikes, it offers things the others don't, and features the others don't.
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09-05-2021, 01:05 PM | #5 |
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I'm not sure why we're comparing a 650 to a 400. Totally different beasts, unless I'm missing something here.
Like WZS, I'm also a multiple CSC bike purchaser and have been totally happy with the products and support I've received, for all the same reasons he listed. I've also done just as well on the resale as any Japanese bikes I've owned, if that makes a difference to a person. I'd like to try the Haylon, myself. Looks like a nice canyon carver for our roads up here in the sticks.
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09-05-2021, 02:42 PM | #6 |
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megadan said he was torn between a 650 and sg400.
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09-06-2021, 01:14 AM | #7 |
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Megadan's size? Get the physically larger bike. I doubt we'll find him in a Smart Car anytime soon.... ;-)
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As far as I am concerned, the RE 650's are in the most direct competition with the liquid cooled 300-400cc bike segment as a whole, which is why it is being considered among them. The RE also has that rugged simplicity factor that I kind of like being an overbuilt air cooled motor. Plus, the 270 crank makes it sound cool lol. Aside from the width of the bikes, they are actually pretty close in size in terms of wheelbase, seat height, etc. So the "bigger" bike really isn't that much bigger.
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09-06-2021, 11:06 AM | #9 |
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We are comparing 400s and 650s because the CSC and RE are affordable twins with retro styling?
-The Genuine G400 offers the classic looks at a lower price, but at a significantly lower cruising speed.
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MAN...that guy rides that bike like he's the King of Scotland or something! About 3/4 through he completely cuts off that driver in the roundabout! That is flat-out Bad and Rude motorcycling! |
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09-07-2021, 10:36 AM | #12 |
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Sounds great! Seems a little slow on the acceleration, I can see why they go big on the performance mods.
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09-05-2021, 04:20 PM | #13 |
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There appears to be pros and cons for either option...both can be modded. If you are purchasing a bike to hack it up and improve it then using the servicing and warranty cover to promote the value is now a moot point.
I believe the dilemma is if the extra $900USD premium on the RE650 is worth it? My perception in Megadan's case is that the additional cost is not worth it. But for others it may very well be. |
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09-06-2021, 01:05 PM | #15 |
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Since we are comparing, what about seat height?
After watching the CSC video provided earlier in the thread, Mrs. 2LZ was very interested in the SG400 simply because a guy with a 30" inseam can flat-foot it. Even with the lowering doo-dad on her RX3 and the forks sucked up in the trees, she still tip-toes it.
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