DB-06 Engine Swap - Page 3

MICRider · 08-20-2012, 05:18 PM

Does the donor bikes CDI look identical to yours? Is that the plug with the different pin out?

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 05:24 PM

Yes the CDI looks basically identical, the same amount of cords.

No the difference is the female part that the engine connects to, only had one metal prong, where as the donor bikes has i think 6.

the cord is Not the ground, and not the bigger connector, its that smaller green one.

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 05:25 PM

Man............ this sucks, i dont know what to do :x :x :x :x :x

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 05:36 PM

the cord that has the different pin count leads too the magneto, dont know if that helps...

I hope this isnt how this ends for me... man....

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 05:41 PM

I forget which color wire it is but someone here may have posted the wiring diagram. You may be able to see the color coming out of the switch and/or the harness. You may also want to try switching CDI's and make sure the coil wires are attached/grounded as need be.

Look at your pics of the donor-cycles wiring to confirm.

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 05:53 PM

MAN!!!!!!!!

im so confused, as to what to do. or what it could be. The cdi is shaped a little bit different, but its the same cord count.

this makes me so mad.

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 05:57 PM

IIRC there are 2 CDI styles. One with rounded plug and 6 wires the other a square plug and 6 wires. It may matter.

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 06:01 PM

yeah he has the rounded like plugs, I have the other kind.

i'd have to remove the plug head and swich em, to make it fit, the bottom one with 2 wires. i have no idea if thats right/okay though... :(

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 06:09 PM

Don't do that yet, but this might be the problem. I kinda wish you checked the transplant engine before removing it... Oh well live and learn.

Wait for Weld or Kato or someone with more Hondoid experiance than myself to check in. This should not be a big deal. :wink:

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 06:10 PM

Alright, Ill be patient, Im hopefull we can fix this.

really thought i'd be riding today though, oh well. :roll:

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 06:24 PM

This may help:

http://www.4strokes.com/tech/others/...cdi_wiring.gif

MICRider · 08-20-2012, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGammaGhost

Alright, Ill be patient, Im hopefull we can fix this.

really thought i'd be riding today though, oh well. :roll:

You can definitely fix this, it's just that your wiring isn't jiving... You might have to use the CDI unit from the donor bike. As Doc was saying though, probably be wisest to wait for Weld or Kato's opinion on the best course of action. Patience... Don't panic

TheGammaGhost · 08-20-2012, 06:40 PM

Forsure,

It's a wiring thing, you guys rule.

Feeling much better about it now.

I'll do what it takes, and i'm okay with waiting.

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 06:45 PM

Of course we are the same useless schmucks that couldn't fix your clutch... :roll:

I STILL don't know what that one was all about but I can't help but believe if you were my neighbor I could ride over there and see, hear, and feel my way through this and fix you right up. The same applies to a bunch of us. :P

FastDoc · 08-20-2012, 06:46 PM

Another diagram to look out:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...CDI_Pinout.jpg

Now I gotta go see this guy with a stroke...

08-20-2012, 05:24 PM	#32
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	Yes the CDI looks basically identical, the same amount of cords. No the difference is the female part that the engine connects to, only had one metal prong, where as the donor bikes has i think 6. the cord is Not the ground, and not the bigger connector, its that smaller green one. __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 05:25 PM	#33
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	Man............ this sucks, i dont know what to do :x :x :x :x :x __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 05:36 PM	#34
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	the cord that has the different pin count leads too the magneto, dont know if that helps... I hope this isnt how this ends for me... man.... __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 05:41 PM	#35
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I forget which color wire it is but someone here may have posted the wiring diagram. You may be able to see the color coming out of the switch and/or the harness. You may also want to try switching CDI's and make sure the coil wires are attached/grounded as need be. Look at your pics of the donor-cycles wiring to confirm. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-20-2012, 05:53 PM	#36
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	MAN!!!!!!!! im so confused, as to what to do. or what it could be. The cdi is shaped a little bit different, but its the same cord count. this makes me so mad. __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 05:18 PM	#31
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	Does the donor bikes CDI look identical to yours? Is that the plug with the different pin out?
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08-20-2012, 05:57 PM	#37
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	IIRC there are 2 CDI styles. One with rounded plug and 6 wires the other a square plug and 6 wires. It may matter. __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-20-2012, 06:01 PM	#38
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	yeah he has the rounded like plugs, I have the other kind. i'd have to remove the plug head and swich em, to make it fit, the bottom one with 2 wires. i have no idea if thats right/okay though... :( __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 06:09 PM	#39
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Don't do that yet, but this might be the problem. I kinda wish you checked the transplant engine before removing it... Oh well live and learn. Wait for Weld or Kato or someone with more Hondoid experiance than myself to check in. This should not be a big deal. :wink: __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-20-2012, 06:10 PM	#40
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	Alright, Ill be patient, Im hopefull we can fix this. really thought i'd be riding today though, oh well. :roll: __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 06:24 PM	#41
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	This may help: http://www.4strokes.com/tech/others/...cdi_wiring.gif __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-20-2012, 06:40 PM	#43
TheGammaGhost Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 386	Forsure, It's a wiring thing, you guys rule. Feeling much better about it now. I'll do what it takes, and i'm okay with waiting. __________________ 2021 Boom Vader Gen 2 BD125-10 Current 2011 DRZ400S Current 2006 LIFANIZED ROKETA DB-06 200cc Sold 2008 Ninja 250R Sold 1984 Honda aero 125 Sold 1980 Honda CM400T Sold
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08-20-2012, 06:45 PM	#44
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Of course we are the same useless schmucks that couldn't fix your clutch... :roll: I STILL don't know what that one was all about but I can't help but believe if you were my neighbor I could ride over there and see, hear, and feel my way through this and fix you right up. The same applies to a bunch of us. :P __________________ Happy to serve.
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08-20-2012, 06:46 PM	#45
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Another diagram to look out: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...CDI_Pinout.jpg Now I gotta go see this guy with a stroke... __________________ Happy to serve.
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