New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[Jay In Milpitas]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

I get that good sense too from csc. Kinda like the early Saturn vibe before gm swallowed them.

What? Saturn was GM, conception to grave.

I feel Steve and his CSC business model is akin to PABATCO and their Hodaka brand. Offer a quality product at a sensible price, provide good support, live happy.

[rjmorel]

Hodaka Ace 100, man does that bring back memories , my very first bike, rj

[keithmaine]

Originally Posted by rjmorel

Hodaka Ace 100, man does that bring back memories , my very first bike, rj

I had the Combat Wombat, a whole lot of fun

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

What? Saturn was GM, conception to grave.

I feel Steve and his CSC business model is akin to PABATCO and their Hodaka brand. Offer a quality product at a sensible price, provide good support, live happy.

Well yes you are right. I felt that in the early times saturn operated Independently of gm but became so rapped up in the gm standard they lost their culture that won their loyal customer support. In my opinion near the end it was just another pontiac Buick xcetera. Thus brought down with the giant in 2009 .

[katflap]

A few days ago I put in an order from Taobao. Amongst other things I ordered 2 Zongshen roundel badges.

Today I received an email saying that Only the new design is available. Not a problem.

So the silver on black has gone and this is its replacement which matches the logo on the possible RX4 pictures.

http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....postcount=5112

[Juanro]

If Google Translate is to be trusted, it means "Depth"

[kohburn]

"depth" is probably not as accurate as "profound"

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by kohburn

"depth" is probably not as accurate as "profound"

This makes sense. "Depth" or "Profound" is right up there with "Speed" and "Adventure". ;-)

[kohburn]

then again.
zong translates to Total
shen translates to Dios which tanslates to god

so Zǒng shén means "total god"


(some other meanins of shen are: spirit, diety, expression)

(zong can translate as: total, overall, always, chief, head) or
(zhong which can be used as a preposition meaning: in, within, among, etc)


could be something along the lines of


in spirit
total expression
among God

etc


but the test with any translation is if it can translate back again. the only one that translates back is total god, they sure are modest


however zhongsheng translates to being/presence/existence - or roughly soul


it might be a bit of a play on words

[kohburn]

as for the cyclone badge I'd take that over the TT stickers on the TT250.

[rtking]

Actually "dragon" in Mandarin is "long" (with a long "o" sound... similar to "L - oh - nnnng"). I knew my pidgin Mandarin might come in handy one day (outside of a restaurant.) But maybe the anglisized pronunciation of "dragon" become "zong."

Not sure of the relationship of the dragon to the RX series motorcycles from Zongshen, though. Seems Zongshen is relating "Cyclone" as the key word for this series of adventure bikes.

[SpudRider]

The are many dialects of the Chinese language. I think Zongshen might be translated as "dragon" for the dialect in Chongqing. However, the dragon is a popular symbol which is widely employed in China.

I do know about 8 years ago, Zongshen was using the motto, "be dragonized."

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=2463

[DanKearney]

I've got a Chinese wife, so I've got some experience in China and with the language.

Translating Chinese characters requires context to do properly. Regardless of dialect, the characters remain the same. Most times, the definition of the character remains the same, but not always. Most times, the pronunciation of the character will be very different even though the character and the meaning are the same.

宗申 - Expressed in Pinyin, this is zōng shēn.

These are the characters that Zongshen uses on their own web site, so I assume they are correct.

宗 = Ancestor
申 = to state, express, explain

There's no entry in my Chinese dictionary that has these characters together, so to try and get the meaning from literal translation is hopeless.

Cheers,

Dan K.

[SpudRider]

Thank you for posting the good information, Dan.

[DanKearney]

I've found it nearly impossible to get the transmission into neutral while the bike is sitting still. If I rock it back-and-forth an inch or two, that usually helps. I've gotten in the habit of snicking it into neutral just as I roll to a stop.

Cheers,

Dan K.