What motor oil is best? - Page 2

warrior91 · 06-08-2008, 04:58 PM

My weight breakdown had nothing to do with synth vs conventional.
Up to rider on what he wants to use,justify.
5w50...
That is a large viscosity spread, 5 weight "winter" pouring ability and 50 weight high temperature kinematic viscosity. An oil would need to rely on very good Viscosity Improvers in order to do both well.

Why spend the money on something you are going to change. And do you need 5 weight in southern states?

Clutches slip worse with synth unless it is specifically designed as such.
Don't buy cheap "oil" synth under $10 a quart would be sub standard.
My $4 dino fluid works good.

06-08-2008, 06:50 PM

its too bad they cant farm dinosaurs and use them for oil.

justinkr58 · 06-08-2008, 11:19 PM

i bought 2 quarts of amsoil full synt when i bought my bike then was told to break it in first,, buti dont want to waste the 20$ in oil so when i change my oil could i mix a little of the synt with the reg oil?

VinceDrake · 06-08-2008, 11:40 PM

Personally, I wouldn't. I don't really like mixing brands of oil, let alone types. Although, If you just hang onto it until later, it won't go to waste, it just won't get used right now... I'd still break it on dino oil, myself.

--Vince

IronFist · 06-09-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceDrake

Personally, I wouldn't. I don't really like mixing brands of oil, let alone types. Although, If you just hang onto it until later, it won't go to waste, it just won't get used right now... I'd still break it on dino oil, myself.

--Vince

Yep

VinceDrake · 06-09-2008, 10:30 PM

Unless, we're talkin' about 2 strokes. Then, I figure the cheapest crap I can get that day. I figure it's got to be better than what the bikes were designed to run on...

But it's gotta be blue. Not blue? Not interested. Not green, not brown, not yellow. Blue. Not even purple with green polka dots.

Don't ever want to try to run out an entire tank of premix through a 4 stroke Honda Cb- 4 satroke, ever again!

--Vince

DiamoLM200 · 06-10-2008, 12:41 AM

<------ Mobile 1 syth. racing 4t oil ........i love it IMHO its the best for my bike

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...4T_10W-40.aspx

fisherboy3 · 06-12-2008, 06:39 PM

I have found 15/40 car engine oil with a performance engine treatment that contains PTFE has really smoothed out my motor I tried synthetic oil and it was awful, the the noise and vibration were noticeably increased, similarly 10/40 motorbike oil had more noise and vibration.

warrior91 · 06-13-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zapkin

its too bad they cant farm dinosaurs and use them for oil.

Actually they are in development of obtaining raw fuel oil from single cell phytoplankton on ``farms`` . 7 to 30 times as eficient per acre than competing foodstuff,use subpar land as long as it is sunny and warm,temperate,simple technology......

single cells are older than dinosaurs....unless you don`t think Darwin was right

warrior91 · 06-13-2008, 02:30 AM

http://www.algaefuelsystems.com/
Go Saskatchewan :!:
Oh yah...Spain, and Ohio I think as well but you will have to get that yourself. :wink:

fatboy250 · 06-13-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fisherboy3

I have found 15/40 car engine oil with a performance engine treatment that contains PTFE has really smoothed out my motor

What oil or what PTFE additive? I currently use 15w40 too

katoranger · 06-13-2008, 12:21 PM

Careful on the additives as that is what will damage the clutch.

Friction modifiers.

Allen

warrior91 · 06-13-2008, 02:31 PM

Your motor may run awesome but if the clutch slips...what good is a running motor!

fisherboy3 · 06-13-2008, 09:35 PM

The oil was castrol mineral oil 15/40 and PTFE is the ingredient that is in the additive. my additive was Nulon E20 this was an australian brand but any additive with the ingredient PTFE would be the same. This would usually be a performance engine treatment (eg it is the main ingredient of motor up but here are much less expensive options with ptfe in them) I have had it in there for 800kms now with no clutch problems. if you look up qminet.com it had additives with ptfe that it recommends for motorcycles. Ceramicpowerliquid.com also directly asks this question - can I use this in an oil bath clutch? and they answer that it does no harm to the clutch. Hope that helps

IronFist · 06-17-2008, 01:05 AM

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I went from 10/40 to 20/50 same brand oil. Canadian tire motorcycle oil for 4 strokes. Both are $3.99/L. My gear shift is no longer sticking/

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06-08-2008, 04:58 PM	#16
warrior91 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.E. Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 679	My weight breakdown had nothing to do with synth vs conventional. Up to rider on what he wants to use,justify. 5w50... That is a large viscosity spread, 5 weight "winter" pouring ability and 50 weight high temperature kinematic viscosity. An oil would need to rely on very good Viscosity Improvers in order to do both well. Why spend the money on something you are going to change. And do you need 5 weight in southern states? Clutches slip worse with synth unless it is specifically designed as such. Don't buy cheap "oil" synth under $10 a quart would be sub standard. My $4 dino fluid works good. __________________ '91 Yamaha Warrior- stage 2 '83 Honda ATC 70 '08 Yongjiang 125cc mx (Loncin) '08 Yongjiang 150cc atv (Jinlong)
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06-08-2008, 11:40 PM	#19
VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	Personally, I wouldn't. I don't really like mixing brands of oil, let alone types. Although, If you just hang onto it until later, it won't go to waste, it just won't get used right now... I'd still break it on dino oil, myself. --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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06-09-2008, 10:30 PM	#21
VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	Unless, we're talkin' about 2 strokes. Then, I figure the cheapest crap I can get that day. I figure it's got to be better than what the bikes were designed to run on... But it's gotta be blue. Not blue? Not interested. Not green, not brown, not yellow. Blue. Not even purple with green polka dots. Don't ever want to try to run out an entire tank of premix through a 4 stroke Honda Cb- 4 satroke, ever again! --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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06-13-2008, 02:30 AM	#25
warrior91 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.E. Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 679	http://www.algaefuelsystems.com/ Go Saskatchewan :!: Oh yah...Spain, and Ohio I think as well but you will have to get that yourself. :wink: __________________ '91 Yamaha Warrior- stage 2 '83 Honda ATC 70 '08 Yongjiang 125cc mx (Loncin) '08 Yongjiang 150cc atv (Jinlong)
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06-13-2008, 12:21 PM	#27
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Careful on the additives as that is what will damage the clutch. Friction modifiers. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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06-08-2008, 06:50 PM	#17
Guest Posts: n/a	its too bad they cant farm dinosaurs and use them for oil.
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06-08-2008, 11:19 PM	#18
justinkr58 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mn Posts: 183	i bought 2 quarts of amsoil full synt when i bought my bike then was told to break it in first,, buti dont want to waste the 20$ in oil so when i change my oil could i mix a little of the synt with the reg oil?
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06-10-2008, 12:41 AM	#22
DiamoLM200 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8	<------ Mobile 1 syth. racing 4t oil ........i love it IMHO its the best for my bike http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...4T_10W-40.aspx
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06-12-2008, 06:39 PM	#23
fisherboy3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 17	I have found 15/40 car engine oil with a performance engine treatment that contains PTFE has really smoothed out my motor I tried synthetic oil and it was awful, the the noise and vibration were noticeably increased, similarly 10/40 motorbike oil had more noise and vibration.
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06-13-2008, 02:31 PM	#28
warrior91 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.E. Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 679	Your motor may run awesome but if the clutch slips...what good is a running motor! __________________ '91 Yamaha Warrior- stage 2 '83 Honda ATC 70 '08 Yongjiang 125cc mx (Loncin) '08 Yongjiang 150cc atv (Jinlong)
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06-13-2008, 09:35 PM	#29
fisherboy3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 17	The oil was castrol mineral oil 15/40 and PTFE is the ingredient that is in the additive. my additive was Nulon E20 this was an australian brand but any additive with the ingredient PTFE would be the same. This would usually be a performance engine treatment (eg it is the main ingredient of motor up but here are much less expensive options with ptfe in them) I have had it in there for 800kms now with no clutch problems. if you look up qminet.com it had additives with ptfe that it recommends for motorcycles. Ceramicpowerliquid.com also directly asks this question - can I use this in an oil bath clutch? and they answer that it does no harm to the clutch. Hope that helps
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06-17-2008, 01:05 AM	#30
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	bump I went from 10/40 to 20/50 same brand oil. Canadian tire motorcycle oil for 4 strokes. Both are $3.99/L. My gear shift is no longer sticking/ \
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