Not sure if this qualifies for dual sport... - Page 2

Bruces · 01-18-2021, 03:50 PM

You don’t really need the dual range if you have a 140cc and up power plant in them .
I also have two that some day I will play with ,I have a Honda atc125m engine that will bolt into one ,and several 125-140cc engines I can toss into the other .It’s kind of strange that several of us have trail 90’s in various states of disrepair , I wonder if we need to start another section for stuffing chineese engines in other bikes ?

Wild Dog · 01-18-2021, 05:32 PM

Stuffing Chinese Hondas vertical 110 into older C series Honda frames is a thing here.
Plus most of those Chinese vertical 110 will take Honda Parts.

oincman · 01-18-2021, 07:56 PM

I'm asking Lifan to make a VanVan clone, but throw maybe a 300cc in it. Suzuki dropped them and that leaves the TW200 (butt 80's ugly). Personally I could care less about doing 70+ on a dual sport, but it would be nice to have if I needed it.

As for the CT125. Exactly... Who needs ABS on a bike that tops out at 45. Put a carb on it. So what it's cold starting... Most people don't ride when it's cold anyway, so who cares if it has to run for a couple of minutes. Hell, my CB400 took a good 15 minutes to warm up before it ran right. Just hop on and go!!!!

Wild Dog · 01-18-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by oincman

I'm asking Lifan to make a VanVan clone, but throw maybe a 300cc in it. Suzuki dropped them and that leaves the TW200 (butt 80's ugly). Personally I could care less about doing 70+ on a dual sport, but it would be nice to have if I needed it.

As for the CT125. Exactly... Who needs ABS on a bike that tops out at 45. Put a carb on it. So what it's cold starting... Most people don't ride when it's cold anyway, so who cares if it has to run for a couple of minutes. Hell, my CB400 took a good 15 minutes to warm up before it ran right. Just hop on and go!!!!

Suzuki makes a 250 OHC engine in China that would be a nice fit to a VanVan

oincman · 01-18-2021, 09:13 PM

Well I guess the brains at Suzuki decided it wouldn't work here. Since they dropped the VanVan altogether.

At least I got my VanVan Turd (with 1 mile on it, and purdy Orange). Love the styling. Love the fat ass seat and love the fat ass tires. And for the kinda riding I do, 50 is plenty fast enough.

I'll buy the Husqvarna Svartpilan 400cc if I intend to go faster than 50.

:-)

Megadan · 01-18-2021, 09:17 PM

I don't think the dual range would be entirely useless once a larger motor is swapped in place. Not absolutely necessary, but it would allow for some flexibility with gearing.

oincman · 01-19-2021, 08:07 AM

Another restore project is my 74 Suzuki TC185. It also has the dual range transmission. It runs perfectly fine. In regular gearing it's pretty stout. If I put it in low range, it's a monster and feels like it could climb a tree.

Essayons · 01-27-2021, 12:50 PM

I'll take a Millyard SS180. Not a CT but still an old Honda.

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01-18-2021, 03:50 PM	#16
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,588	You don’t really need the dual range if you have a 140cc and up power plant in them . I also have two that some day I will play with ,I have a Honda atc125m engine that will bolt into one ,and several 125-140cc engines I can toss into the other .It’s kind of strange that several of us have trail 90’s in various states of disrepair , I wonder if we need to start another section for stuffing chineese engines in other bikes ?
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01-18-2021, 05:32 PM	#17
Wild Dog Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Argentina Posts: 756	Stuffing Chinese Hondas vertical 110 into older C series Honda frames is a thing here. Plus most of those Chinese vertical 110 will take Honda Parts.
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01-18-2021, 07:56 PM	#18
oincman Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 99	I'm asking Lifan to make a VanVan clone, but throw maybe a 300cc in it. Suzuki dropped them and that leaves the TW200 (butt 80's ugly). Personally I could care less about doing 70+ on a dual sport, but it would be nice to have if I needed it. As for the CT125. Exactly... Who needs ABS on a bike that tops out at 45. Put a carb on it. So what it's cold starting... Most people don't ride when it's cold anyway, so who cares if it has to run for a couple of minutes. Hell, my CB400 took a good 15 minutes to warm up before it ran right. Just hop on and go!!!!
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01-18-2021, 09:13 PM	#20
oincman Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 99	Well I guess the brains at Suzuki decided it wouldn't work here. Since they dropped the VanVan altogether. At least I got my VanVan Turd (with 1 mile on it, and purdy Orange). Love the styling. Love the fat ass seat and love the fat ass tires. And for the kinda riding I do, 50 is plenty fast enough. I'll buy the Husqvarna Svartpilan 400cc if I intend to go faster than 50. :-)
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01-19-2021, 08:07 AM	#22
oincman Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 99	Another restore project is my 74 Suzuki TC185. It also has the dual range transmission. It runs perfectly fine. In regular gearing it's pretty stout. If I put it in low range, it's a monster and feels like it could climb a tree.
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