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Lit Hawk · 02-01-2018, 09:28 AM

Yeah no more riding for me till she’s fixed. I removed the left side cover and saw no broken teeth. So I’m guessing it’s deeper in the engine. I am still covered under warranty and was told to tell them what part it is so I can have a new one mailed to me. So how hard is it to tear the engine down to find the problem? Or should I just try to send the whole engine?

Weldangrind · 02-01-2018, 10:06 AM

Perhaps you'll get luck and find that it is a clutch basket tooth. Even so, I'd split the cases to ensure that it's cleaned out.

Megadan · 02-01-2018, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

Yeah no more riding for me till she’s fixed. I removed the left side cover and saw no broken teeth. So I’m guessing it’s deeper in the engine. I am still covered under warranty and was told to tell them what part it is so I can have a new one mailed to me. So how hard is it to tear the engine down to find the problem? Or should I just try to send the whole engine?

These engines aren't too bad to tear down, just a little time consuming. You can follow the CG125 service manual for help, it should include all of the steps. Taking a bunch of pictures of how everything comes apart will definitely make re-assembly much easier.

ben2go · 02-01-2018, 09:04 PM

Pull the right side engine cover and inspect the clutch basket and drive gears from the crankshaft to the clutch. I have a feeling it's in there. Have you been dumping the clutch and riding wheelies? That will kill them pretty quick sometimes.

Lit Hawk · 02-01-2018, 10:24 PM

I inspected the right side tonight and sadly no teeth broken. It’s deeper, not sure what I’m gonna do. Parts covered under warranty but I think I’m gonna have to pay labor. No wheelies but I did notice the clutch acting a little funny a couple days before. Sucks, I wanna open it myself but not really confident. @#$&!!

Weldangrind · 02-02-2018, 10:18 AM

There are a few Youtube vids to guide you. The CG motor has the same frame of architecture (in the bottom end) as the XR200 / XL185 / CRF230 / ATC200. The process will be easier for you, since you have no cam chain to worry about.

Megadan · 02-02-2018, 02:27 PM

Have confidence. These engines are very simple to work on, so almost anybody can do this with a bit of mechanical aptitude. Take pictures of every step if you have to, or even videos of you explaining to yourself what order things came off/go on. It's not as bad as you think it is in your head.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-02-2018, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

Have confidence. These engines are very simple to work on, so almost anybody can do this with a bit of mechanical aptitude. Take pictures of every step if you have to, or even videos of you explaining to yourself what order things came off/go on. It's not as bad as you think it is in your head.

2X pictures, pictures, pictures. With todays smart phones it makes it so easy. to pull it out and take a picture or two. I've found myself pulling up youtude videos or google on my phone if I need a little information on something i'm working on.

Lit Hawk · 02-02-2018, 08:16 PM

It’s gonna come out to about 175-200 for labor and shipping. I’m gonna remove the engine tomorrow. Still not sure what I’m gonna do. Thanks weldandgrind for the YouTube suggestions I’m gonna be studying those all weekend. I also should be getting my sons 125cc Apollo piston w/rings tomorrow, his bikes been blowing white smoke like crazy. Been watching vids on how to do that so maybe I’ll see how far I can get on that bike and build my confidence. Thanks for the encouragement, I’ll keep y’all updated.

ben2go · 02-02-2018, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

I inspected the right side tonight and sadly no teeth broken. It’s deeper, not sure what I’m gonna do. Parts covered under warranty but I think I’m gonna have to pay labor. No wheelies but I did notice the clutch acting a little funny a couple days before. Sucks, I wanna open it myself but not really confident. @#$&!!

What is your location? Maybe there is a knowledgeable member close by to lend a hand.

timcosby · 02-03-2018, 07:12 PM

i think i saw a whole gear set for $50 somewhere if thats what it is.

Lit Hawk · 02-12-2018, 08:25 PM

Anyone know what size flywheel puller to use. How about removing it without a tool. I’m also having a problem taking off the oil pump Phillips head screws?

Lit Hawk · 02-13-2018, 12:41 AM

didn’t even need to pull off the flywheel oh well got one coming on Thursday anyways.

Lit Hawk · 02-13-2018, 12:45 AM

Not so bad At all thanks y’all

Megadan · 02-13-2018, 02:44 AM

Talk about getting stuck in. Nice work so far.

02-01-2018, 10:06 AM	#17
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Perhaps you'll get luck and find that it is a clutch basket tooth. Even so, I'd split the cases to ensure that it's cleaned out. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-02-2018, 10:18 AM	#21
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	There are a few Youtube vids to guide you. The CG motor has the same frame of architecture (in the bottom end) as the XR200 / XL185 / CRF230 / ATC200. The process will be easier for you, since you have no cam chain to worry about. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-02-2018, 02:27 PM	#22
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,042	Have confidence. These engines are very simple to work on, so almost anybody can do this with a bit of mechanical aptitude. Take pictures of every step if you have to, or even videos of you explaining to yourself what order things came off/go on. It's not as bad as you think it is in your head. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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02-03-2018, 07:12 PM	#26
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	i think i saw a whole gear set for $50 somewhere if thats what it is. __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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02-13-2018, 02:44 AM	#30
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,042	Talk about getting stuck in. Nice work so far. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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02-01-2018, 09:28 AM	#16
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Yeah no more riding for me till she’s fixed. I removed the left side cover and saw no broken teeth. So I’m guessing it’s deeper in the engine. I am still covered under warranty and was told to tell them what part it is so I can have a new one mailed to me. So how hard is it to tear the engine down to find the problem? Or should I just try to send the whole engine?
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02-01-2018, 09:04 PM	#19
ben2go Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,335	Pull the right side engine cover and inspect the clutch basket and drive gears from the crankshaft to the clutch. I have a feeling it's in there. Have you been dumping the clutch and riding wheelies? That will kill them pretty quick sometimes.
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02-01-2018, 10:24 PM	#20
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	I inspected the right side tonight and sadly no teeth broken. It’s deeper, not sure what I’m gonna do. Parts covered under warranty but I think I’m gonna have to pay labor. No wheelies but I did notice the clutch acting a little funny a couple days before. Sucks, I wanna open it myself but not really confident. @#$&!!
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02-02-2018, 08:16 PM	#24
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	It’s gonna come out to about 175-200 for labor and shipping. I’m gonna remove the engine tomorrow. Still not sure what I’m gonna do. Thanks weldandgrind for the YouTube suggestions I’m gonna be studying those all weekend. I also should be getting my sons 125cc Apollo piston w/rings tomorrow, his bikes been blowing white smoke like crazy. Been watching vids on how to do that so maybe I’ll see how far I can get on that bike and build my confidence. Thanks for the encouragement, I’ll keep y’all updated.
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02-12-2018, 08:25 PM	#27
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Anyone know what size flywheel puller to use. How about removing it without a tool. I’m also having a problem taking off the oil pump Phillips head screws?
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02-13-2018, 12:41 AM	#28
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	didn’t even need to pull off the flywheel oh well got one coming on Thursday anyways.
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