What oil? - Page 2

2LZ · 07-06-2018, 09:56 AM

Oil threads are fun and games until someone loses an eye..........

**JerryHawk250** · 07-06-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Oil threads are fun and games until someone loses an eye..........

That's why I keep it simple. Follow manufactures recommendations. Example.

Hawk 229cc · 07-06-2018, 01:06 PM

thats pretty much all i was saying following the maufacture instructions without a 2 page report on oil an for hawk owners i can see why people would go with 15 w 40 couse it says it in the hand book an most guys would never think twice the chart above 15w40 it is, but then the 4 choises below that couses the oil debates i think

though i went with 10w40 motorcycle oil,cant be that thinned skined hear ,like said there are as many opinions about oil as there aseholes in the world including myself,i meen i never thought the guy would have that reaction ,couse i thought he just kinda contradicted himself ,i do it offten myself ,theres nothing perfect about this forum ,sure glad about that,see that i just contradicted myself

NzBrakelathes · 07-06-2018, 01:42 PM

Filters with your Oil Sir?

Hawk 229cc · 07-06-2018, 01:49 PM

EFI version as far as i know its not out in a hawk yet ? do those work in a non efi hawk an get loaded in the side spring ,to replace the strainer type

pete · 07-06-2018, 05:34 PM

Any oil that meets JASO-MA2 specs will work in your bike..
Thats all that realy matters is that it is suitable for a wet clutch
& gear box..
The biggest factor for long engine life is how often you change
the oil & filter...

My TTR250 gets a oil & filter change every 2 rides... As it lives on
or near the red line a lot of the time...

.

2LZ · 07-06-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk 229cc

EFI version as far as i know its not out in a hawk yet ? do those work in a non efi hawk an get loaded in the side spring ,to replace the strainer type

Those oil filters are for the NC 250 motor that comes in the RX3.

NzBrakelathes · 07-07-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk 229cc

EFI version as far as i know its not out in a hawk yet ? do those work in a non efi hawk an get loaded in the side spring ,to replace the strainer type

Quick question - What is the model code of your Hawk engine?
Reason I ask I may maybe just maybe found a 250 version update for that engine without replacing the whole engine.

If you would be kind enough to let me know?

NzBrakelathes · 07-07-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Those oil filters are for the NC 250 motor that comes in the RX3.

My m,ate is going to Utah - I wanna sell sell sell he collect money in Utah and send etc.
please advise what you suggest as per volume etc?
Each set can include the small strainer filter and O rings as well as a sump plug for FREE no money need but wait there's more......

sqwert · 07-08-2018, 02:54 AM

Brought home 2 cases Mobil 1 Racing 4T today. Latest blend is API SL, SM, SN, CH, JASO MA, MA2. Says so on the bottle. Lucas also has a similar expansion of API ratings on the containers in the store and declining prices on the new stuff. I was told by a reliable source a new base was updated for better lubricity with fewer additives, improved durability at temperature extremes, less thermal variance in use, improved corrosion resistance, less oxidation, significantly reduced shear in the transmission, AND the new blend and base provides a final product that should sell for 1/4 to 1/3 less than the old stuff. Walmart has the new Mobil 1 Racing 4T for about $6.50/quart. Walmart used to charge close to $10.00.

So, Gh426's gift of all that information is now riddled with obsolescence. I tried to warn you. Trust me, you really don't want to dedicate sufficient portions of your life to keeping up the lubricant industry unless you sell the stuff and need to answer questions.

Latest models of commercial vehicles require different oils than older models. If you want to use Rotella or some other oil not specified for motorcycles better make sure such changes don't leave your bike unprotected.

I've also noticed some new packaging on shop products like Sea Foam Engine Treatment, DeepCreep, and similar products along with lower prices. No idea what gives with those products. SeaFoam's products still seem to work well.

wheelbender6 · 07-08-2018, 09:45 AM

Don't take your ball and go home, Sqwert. Sticks and stones.

Hawk 229cc · 07-13-2018, 12:52 PM

yes changing the oil more often is the best thing a person can do with wet clutch engines ,i plan to do my oil every 500 to 1000 miles ,though with not alot of time to ride this year,will be lucky to get to 1000 miles on the hawk ,been so busy with my 02 z28 project selling my 95 406 ,more likely after august i will ride more into the fall ,when it gets below 50 it dont ride much unless its on the way home anymore

Hawk 229cc · 07-13-2018, 01:00 PM

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Weldangrind · 07-13-2018, 01:34 PM

What is funny about that, Hawk 229cc?

blanc12 · 07-13-2018, 02:32 PM

I use 10w40 motorcycle oil. I need the cold protection. Some mornings it will be in the 20's spring and fall. I have been using valvoline. It seems to work well. Just changed the hawks oil with Lucas motorcycle oil but I dont like the way the trans shifts now. I have a little over 1000 miles on my hawk I will try the mobil 1 motorcycle oil and see how that goes.

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07-06-2018, 01:06 PM	#18
Hawk 229cc Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 214	thats pretty much all i was saying following the maufacture instructions without a 2 page report on oil an for hawk owners i can see why people would go with 15 w 40 couse it says it in the hand book an most guys would never think twice the chart above 15w40 it is, but then the 4 choises below that couses the oil debates i think though i went with 10w40 motorcycle oil,cant be that thinned skined hear ,like said there are as many opinions about oil as there aseholes in the world including myself,i meen i never thought the guy would have that reaction ,couse i thought he just kinda contradicted himself ,i do it offten myself ,theres nothing perfect about this forum ,sure glad about that,see that i just contradicted myself __________________
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07-06-2018, 01:49 PM	#20
Hawk 229cc Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 214	EFI version as far as i know its not out in a hawk yet ? do those work in a non efi hawk an get loaded in the side spring ,to replace the strainer type __________________
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07-06-2018, 05:34 PM	#21
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,266	Any oil that meets JASO-MA2 specs will work in your bike.. Thats all that realy matters is that it is suitable for a wet clutch & gear box.. The biggest factor for long engine life is how often you change the oil & filter... My TTR250 gets a oil & filter change every 2 rides... As it lives on or near the red line a lot of the time... . __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com Last edited by pete; 07-07-2018 at 01:08 AM.
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07-08-2018, 02:54 AM	#25
sqwert Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 382	a b c d e f g h ... . Brought home 2 cases Mobil 1 Racing 4T today. Latest blend is API SL, SM, SN, CH, JASO MA, MA2. Says so on the bottle. Lucas also has a similar expansion of API ratings on the containers in the store and declining prices on the new stuff. I was told by a reliable source a new base was updated for better lubricity with fewer additives, improved durability at temperature extremes, less thermal variance in use, improved corrosion resistance, less oxidation, significantly reduced shear in the transmission, AND the new blend and base provides a final product that should sell for 1/4 to 1/3 less than the old stuff. Walmart has the new Mobil 1 Racing 4T for about $6.50/quart. Walmart used to charge close to $10.00. So, Gh426's gift of all that information is now riddled with obsolescence. I tried to warn you. Trust me, you really don't want to dedicate sufficient portions of your life to keeping up the lubricant industry unless you sell the stuff and need to answer questions. Latest models of commercial vehicles require different oils than older models. If you want to use Rotella or some other oil not specified for motorcycles better make sure such changes don't leave your bike unprotected. I've also noticed some new packaging on shop products like Sea Foam Engine Treatment, DeepCreep, and similar products along with lower prices. No idea what gives with those products. SeaFoam's products still seem to work well.
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07-08-2018, 09:45 AM	#26
wheelbender6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,902	Don't take your ball and go home, Sqwert. Sticks and stones. __________________ "Its not WHAT you ride; its THAT you ride"
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07-13-2018, 12:52 PM	#27
Hawk 229cc Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 214	yes changing the oil more often is the best thing a person can do with wet clutch engines ,i plan to do my oil every 500 to 1000 miles ,though with not alot of time to ride this year,will be lucky to get to 1000 miles on the hawk ,been so busy with my 02 z28 project selling my 95 406 ,more likely after august i will ride more into the fall ,when it gets below 50 it dont ride much unless its on the way home anymore __________________
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07-13-2018, 01:00 PM	#28
Hawk 229cc Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 214	[QUOTE=jontando;285450]Forum usage guidelines Personal Attacks on Members Personal attacks towards any forum member will not be tolerated. If you have an issue with a comment, you can either send the member a Private Message or notify a moderator. No need to get into a shouting match on the forum. If any personal attacks are made towards a member, immediate action will be taken to remove them. __________________
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07-13-2018, 01:34 PM	#29
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	What is funny about that, Hawk 229cc? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-13-2018, 02:32 PM	#30
blanc12 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Northern Maine Posts: 55	I use 10w40 motorcycle oil. I need the cold protection. Some mornings it will be in the 20's spring and fall. I have been using valvoline. It seems to work well. Just changed the hawks oil with Lucas motorcycle oil but I dont like the way the trans shifts now. I have a little over 1000 miles on my hawk I will try the mobil 1 motorcycle oil and see how that goes.
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