07-01-2020, 08:42 PM | #16 |
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The build quality of the Kayos is not bad next to a CRf230 which is chinese parts build in Brazil.. CRF 230 is a far cry from a CRF250.
At least here, the Kayo K6 is the cheapest way to get a motorcycle for motocross racing. For the price point (here) is either you get a K6 or an abused Ktm, CRF250 from 2010... |
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07-01-2020, 09:27 PM | #17 |
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That CB engine is it should be same as the Apollo and if you have 6 gears there’s no room for a kicker, one or other and I’d say 6 is better.
It’s still an old engine compared to the several others that are out recently like 249cc balance n 6 spd in another bike or the 249cc 4 valve etc |
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07-02-2020, 12:19 PM | #18 | |
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07-02-2020, 12:48 PM | #19 |
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Yes, there have been a few threads about them, and this is a recent thread with a link:
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=26772
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07-03-2020, 05:55 AM | #21 | |
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But unless you buy a bunch ... Or what to do when you need parts... |
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07-03-2020, 06:38 AM | #22 |
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I have been noticing this with some of the chinese bikes, the prices on some are getting to close to the bikes we grew up knowing.
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07-03-2020, 09:56 AM | #23 | |
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The K6 i posted is a SOHC 249cc 4 valves, EFI, water cooled, 30 HP. Yes still weaker than a CRF250R that has about 40hp.. But the K6 is half the price of a CRF250r If you compare these chinese motorcycle to their japanese counterpart they are still cheap motorcycles. But if you compare them to a chinese cg enduro, then yes they will be expensive. Last edited by Wild Dog; 07-03-2020 at 03:09 PM. |
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07-06-2020, 07:15 PM | #24 |
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So I just spoke with the rep at Kayo again........ super nice and helpful! Recapping some things that were pointed out:
FastAce suspension(nitro) 28mm Nibbi carb Red Sticker CA approved 520H chain 13/45 sprockets 2.4A Lion battery Aluminum wheels Aluminum swingarm SUBSTANTIAL spokes(my words as this is something i noticed on the one i test drove!) 7075 Alum handlebar 2.5 gallon fuel tank Oddly when I asked if the engine was Honda CRF230 based they actually said it was more along the lines of Yamaha technology???? Initially I was going to dismiss the Kayo T4 due to lack of functioning fuel gauge but found out that the Orion RXB doesn't have this either so that's a wash for both on street driving convenience. bigger tank on the T4 of course though. Quite a price difference but there are a few upgrades on the T4 over the RXB also. Now, comparing to Pitster/GPX........ the pricing would end up being a wash(actually better in favor of the Kayo) for me compared to the XTR T4 due to shipping as my dealer quoted me $34xx OUT THE DOOR for the Kayo. If I could just confirm that the engine is modeled off another popular engine like the CRF230 then i would be even more interested. |
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07-06-2020, 08:11 PM | #25 | |
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You know so people don't go and spread incorrect info like "Oh 3500 for an OHV engine ohhh no boy!!" Because a lot of people seems to think that Honda is the same as OHV when it comes small cc.... The engine on the Kayo T4 is a CB design. |
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07-06-2020, 11:34 PM | #26 | |
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07-07-2020, 11:52 AM | #27 |
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Thanks for the info. Red Sticker. Drat.....
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07-07-2020, 05:24 PM | #28 |
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Several Pitster Pro/GPX bikes are in the same boat as far as CARB goes. Including that new mini Grom-like-vehicle with either the 140 or 190 engine.
Were you ever able to clarify the Red Sticker and if there is any loophole depending on where you ride it in California? There might be a loophole at least down this way near Yuma on BLM (not the BLM that appropriated the name, but the actual one that looks after certain federal) land. There is a wide swath of BLM land just across the state line in California that is not patrolled by California authorities. Numerous people residing in the Yuma area ride motorcycles, quads, S x S, etc. that I am sure do not have California stickers. That might be the loophole? Sorry to hijack, back to the Kayo T4 which can obtain a Red Sticker...
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07-07-2020, 11:37 PM | #29 | |
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Someone has to break that barrier someday. Tons of money here to be had.
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07-10-2020, 05:03 PM | #30 |
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The Kayo T4 may have just moved up on my list of which motorcycle to buy! I was just messaging Joe Henner('The RXB guy') and he himself is familiar with Kayo and has even considered becoming a dealer. Better yet, he indicated that all of his performance parts will work on the T4!
Now, unless I find a really good deal on a 2018+ Kawasaki KLX250(EFI would be nice!), the T4 might be the one. |
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