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Old 04-17-2023, 12:47 PM   #16
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If your are going by the stock speedometer, your bike realistically did about 60mph.

All of my speeds are via a GPS reading for that very reason.

Most people find the stock speedo to be 8 - 10% off at 60+mph
I have the TT250 Tach/speedo, not sure if it's anymore accurate than the stock though lol

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https://cscmotorcycles.com/zt3-107a-...2018-up-tt250/


 
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:26 PM   #17
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I have the TT250 Tach/speedo, not sure if it's anymore accurate than the stock though lol

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https://cscmotorcycles.com/zt3-107a-...2018-up-tt250/
Likely not that accurate out of the box. Only way to know would be to compare it to a gps
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:37 PM   #18
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Thank you so much… I only have one more thing to ask. It may be stupid but higher? Lower? That’s really my main question idrk what the difference is… is it just longer in the gears or does it make top speed higher… I get that you’re losing torque for top speed or vice versa. I’m basically asking why would the 17/46-47 benefit us specifically over the 45?
Yeah, Like Dan said ,. Like in a car, 1st gear is often called low. On a car a 4.50 to 1 rear end is geared way lower than a 3.50 to 1, because it means that the driveshaft has to turn four and a half times to turn the wheel once. On a motorcycle the total you get by dividing the number of teeth on the rear sprocket by the number on the front is how many times the front sprocket must turn to turn the rear wheel once. A 46, or 47 was only a number I threw out there, because I am running a 46/17 on my Hawk, and it's just about as Dan describes the 45/17 gearing. It's basically 2% "lower", which would only be the difference ( in theory) of one bike topping out at 100 mph, and one at 98mph, or in more realistic terms one bike running 70 at 8,000 rpm, and one running between 68,and 69.


 
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Old 04-17-2023, 11:12 PM   #19
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Already planning on getting an oil cooler, but again… not really planning on going on the highway, our roads speed limits are 45 and everyone goes 60 I just wanna make sure we’ll both be able to be safe out there (which I believe we will even if it’s stock.)
Well you said "won't die on on the highway" lol. You might not die, but you're gonna feel like you might. There's no power left in it to get out of the way when you need to at highway speeds.
Also as a main/only mode of transportation it is not comfortable for long rides - there are ways to make it more comfortable obviously, but it's no cruiser.

I've turned mine into a bike capable of highway transport and it's decently comfortable after a new seat, seat pad/cushion, windshield, anti vibration grips, etc but after you get it ready for all that you've spent hundreds more lol.
Looking back if I have 2500 cash might have gone a different route, got something capable of hitting 80 lol

But I'm poor, got approved for 1500 through amazon and didn't look back.

Personally, after seeing how these things come stock I wouldn't feel safe on it straight outta the box....you need to go over a lot of stuff, every bolt, brakes, all cables, make sure all lights work, CHECK THAT CHAIN! etc, etc.

My bike arrived missing the front axle nut, the rear brake light was not adjusted properly so it never came on when touching the brakes (until I adjusted it)
Had a short in the start/kill switch, the chain was also incredibly loose on mine and simply fell off one day. Luckily got it back on and babied it home.
The stock rear brake setup is held together by a pin, which fell out while riding on me and I lost rear brakes. I drilled a bigger hole there, put a nut, bolt, washer, lock washer and blue loctite on it and fixed it.

I've also heard people getting it with the chain too tight, which can lead to snapping that thing.

It's "safe" after all the kinks are worked out.

The road I live off is also 45 and everyone does 60. After plenty of mods it's fine for that, but stock I think 45-48 was my top speed before the break in lol


 
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Old 04-21-2023, 04:29 PM   #20
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Just bought some retells t6 5w-40 is that good for the hawk?


 
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Old 04-21-2023, 06:36 PM   #21
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Just bought some retells t6 5w-40 is that good for the hawk?
No, It's not . It's too thin for Florida, and it's synthetic. Break in the motor with regular old non synthetic (Dino oil).. If you can return the T6 , or exchange it , get T4 15-40, or some regular non synthetic motorcycle oil 10-40, or 15-40


 
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Old 04-21-2023, 07:41 PM   #22
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No, It's not . It's too thin for Florida, and it's synthetic. Break in the motor with regular old non synthetic (Dino oil).. If you can return the T6 , or exchange it , get T4 15-40, or some regular non synthetic motorcycle oil 10-40, or 15-40
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:36 PM   #23
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No, It's not . It's too thin for Florida, and it's synthetic. Break in the motor with regular old non synthetic (Dino oil).. If you can return the T6 , or exchange it , get T4 15-40, or some regular non synthetic motorcycle oil 10-40, or 15-40
T6 also comes in 15w-40. It's what I run in my Hawk, and have since the 200 mile mark when I did the first oil change.
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:56 PM   #24
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T6 also comes in 15w-40. It's what I run in my Hawk, and have since the 200 mile mark when I did the first oil change.
I have some T6 15w40 on hand, but haven't got around to using it yet, because I bought 2 gallons of Quicksilver brand full synthetic a good while back on sale from Amazon. I run synthetic in my bikes, except for the Hawk, because I was under the impression that you were supposed to break in a motor with Dino oil. I think some claim it helps the rings to seat better, but I just do it because of what I have seen on online. My Hawk is about due for an oil change , and I will probably just run what T-4 I have left in it, and then switch it to full synthetic. I have also ran the Walmart Super Tech full synthetic motorcycle oil in my Brozz, and my Virago , but I have never seen it in gallons.


 
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Old 04-22-2023, 12:15 AM   #25
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I have some T6 15w40 on hand, but haven't got around to using it yet, because I bought 2 gallons of Quicksilver brand full synthetic a good while back on sale from Amazon. I run synthetic in my bikes, except for the Hawk, because I was under the impression that you were supposed to break in a motor with Dino oil. I think some claim it helps the rings to seat better, but I just do it because of what I have seen on online. My Hawk is about due for an oil change , and I will probably just run what T-4 I have left in it, and then switch it to full synthetic. I have also ran the Walmart Super Tech full synthetic motorcycle oil in my Brozz, and my Virago , but I have never seen it in gallons.
First 200 miles were done with T4 and a ZDDP additive. After that I switched to T6. It hasn't been an issue.
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Old 04-23-2023, 12:12 AM   #26
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No, It's not . It's too thin for Florida, and it's synthetic. Break in the motor with regular old non synthetic (Dino oil).. If you can return the T6 , or exchange it , get T4 15-40, or some regular non synthetic motorcycle oil 10-40, or 15-40
I ended up getting stp pro formula sae 10w-40. I do have a receipt and can return this and just buy t4 on Amazon haha but let me know! Ik it prolly doesn’t make a difference but I’m wanting to know the difference except it comes out of the ground from places like Texas and the Middle East


 
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