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Old 02-07-2023, 02:35 PM   #16
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hi clash! thanks for the reply. will give that a go. not had chance today, woke up with a trapped nerve in my shoulder... agony! will report back asap.

what is the reason for disconnecting the ground for the shut off from switch and or computer? i will try that but i like to know why i am doing something.
no sign of corrosion - i keep it indoors and am a 'fair weather biker', plus being in spain helps! it only has 3 fuses so i will check them out.
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Old 02-08-2023, 02:30 AM   #17
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I read on here or saw on youtube that one of the grounding shut off wires could stop it from running. Might not help.


 
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Old 02-08-2023, 03:58 AM   #18
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hi clash. thanks for the update - so it would start and run briefly and then die if the shut off wires were grounded? i will look into it. thanks again.


 
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Old 02-08-2023, 11:25 AM   #19
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I can't remember. I think it wouldn't run at all.


 
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Old 02-08-2023, 11:47 AM   #20
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Order a coil. They are cheap. I assume you installed a new plug. Is it getting a good strong spark when cranking?
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Old 02-08-2023, 12:02 PM   #21
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hi jerry - what is 'under a coil'? not sure what you mean.


re: spark plug, yes, new, but as i said at the start - i tested the spark plug when i turn the engine over it sparks for 2 seconds and then nothing until i switch off the ignition and back on again. still the same today. it's as if the ecu is killing the spark within two seconds - same each time. battery fully charged.


re: error codes - i get error codes if i unplug things like temp sensor / tps / iac / fuel pump. no error if coil unplugged but i don't think it monitors coil connection (?)



ohms check on stator and pulse look within tolerance.



would a coil just die after being great (new bike 3 and a half years ago) - it was standing for about nine months and no issues on last day i rode it.



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Old 02-08-2023, 12:09 PM   #22
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Yes a coil can go bad. Your coil will look similar to this one. https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-P...s%2C174&sr=8-6
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Old 02-08-2023, 12:12 PM   #23
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weirdly i was looking on amazon spain at the identical item!


 
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:03 AM   #24
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coil arrived but they sent a single wire coil! wil be sending back!


 
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:12 AM   #25
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It should still work. The single wire is the power source. All you need to do is ground the coil to the frame.
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:16 AM   #26
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cheers jerry, i wasn't going to try but will try later. cheers!


 
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Old 02-10-2023, 11:20 AM   #27
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sorry to day it didn't work. :(


 
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Old 02-10-2023, 11:51 AM   #28
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hi there, thanks for the reply. the battery is fine. it's a year old lifepo4 battery which i have found very impressive for it's size. had it starting a 250 for a while with no problems.
i actually used scan software to monitor live data and it did not drop when turning over.
give me a carb and points or cdi anyday
cheers.
Hey thumpa,just another thought here about the battery? Since the bikes been sitting 9 months was the lifepo4 the only change? Just curious if you hooked up a multimeter to detect voltage while starting? I have a ‘20 Hawk DLX and was wondering what’s going on with your bike because it could happen to mine also. Thinking outloud….


 
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Old 02-13-2023, 05:45 PM   #29
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ordered a coil from a different amazon seller and waited in all day for it, the tracking said 'out for delivery by 10pm' and just after 10pm they messaged to say 'nobody home' - classic courier b.s.! so now i have to wait again! aaarggh!



p.s. could not use the single pole coil as the efi system on my bike uses 2 wires, one is 12v and the other is used to ground the coil via the ecu, which is how it generates a spark. connecting the single pole coil with the body permanently earthed causes a blown fuse!


 
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Old 02-14-2023, 11:46 AM   #30
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new coil arrived. description said '2 pins' - photo showed coil with 2 spade connectors. coil they sent was a single pin coil!

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


 
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