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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Hell
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Argentina
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Argentina
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It looks like a cousin to the Yamaha N-Max and even both have the same declared max speed. 125 km/h
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Hell
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These bigger scooters a popular here to a group of guys to travel etc
Around $3000 tho or a bit more |
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Argentina
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The Yamaha Nmx is around 3600 usd, the chinese ones are still the very basic ones. |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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The problem I see with larger engine Chinese bikes is the price is NOT a bargain priced dual-sport. CSC's 450 is priced at around $6k+ when you include their shipping and fees, etc. They already had a VERY capable bike in the RX3, including a cult following; but will even that following translate to 450 sales? There have been a few members here reporting buying the 450, so my guess is 'yes' but again; CSC already has a following. Lifan has a following. These other companies might have an excellent product, but without a following, will find it difficult to get a foothold here.
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Argentina
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two cylinders and more than 500cc are the benelli touring with the trk 500 and the TnT 600. Benelli and the CF moto are selling quite well. Now people is expecting the cf moto in 700cc. Quote:
Those larger cc motorcycle are aimed for other markets, for example some parts in Europe, India, South America, etc. Let me give you an example: Cf Moto 650NK, Two cylinders, 8 valves, Dohc, Efi made by Bosch. 71 HP at 8500 RPM Price in Argentina: 8500 USD With that money if you want a Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, etc. You can only get a 300cc motorcycle something along the lines of MT03, etc which are quite weaker than the CF moto I know a few owners with the 650NK that quite happy with them and they have put around 40.000 km without issues. The Fear that some potential users have with these chinese motorcycle is the post sales service and the resale value. Resale value with Japanese brands is always high, with chinese well if you are lucky you can sell it. We have a brand that brings chinese motorcycle among indians one. In their catalog they have a motorcycle that use an engine that is better than the one used in the South American Honda XR250 It's a 250cc DOHC water cooled and outputs like 1 or 2 more HP than the XR250 which is also DOHC but oil cooled..... You can sell the XR250 like a hot cake the other one not so much. |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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We had the CF Moto bikes, but we got the ones with issues. They stopped bringing them here, THEN they fixed them. An expat Polish (I believe) member on Mychinamoto.com who lives in China hated all Chinese bikes and would steer members away due to his negative experiences with Chine bikes. Until he got a fixed version of the CF Moto. He cannot praise it enough.
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Argentina
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In a country like Argentina where the economy has way too up and downs, being able to resale your good is quite important. Having an Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki is like having a check that you can deposit whenever you want. |
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Location: Hell
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Join Date: Oct 2019
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Having 450 miles on this now, I can honestly say it’s gotten even better! As for the spaghetti noodle front shocks, I don’t know what kind of springs they used but at 6”1’ 215lbs I can’t bottom this thing out. I recently went to 20 weight fork oil just because- better is always better- and now I can jump this thing like a champ!! As for the rear drum, yea this was a downside for me that was over ridden by the EFI, but I must say, it works well. Wet or dry, when I adjusted the pedal it is legit. Having good experience with Chinese bikes, I can say this is one legit dual sport. On and off road! |
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
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The one real issue with the thin forks is mainly flex. I have invested quite a bit into my Hawks noodles, and between the preload being set properly and the YSS valves beneath them, it handles and rides far better than I think anybody would expect it to. Where you notice the issue is when turning the bars, and it wouldn't be something you notice until you fit a fork brace and especially if you take it off again. The difference is night and day.
The rear drum isn't entirely a deal breaker for me, but I just question why they didn't go with a rear disc. I doubt it would have added much cost to the bike, if any. It just seems like a decision to try and save a few pennies.
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Minneapolis, mn
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Does any one know what the rear sprocket is like? Like the CG style or something else?
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