04-23-2009, 10:19 PM | #16 |
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By-the-way- anyone know how one adjusts the front drum brakes on these things? Yes...the brakes on this one SUCk, too! (The cables are properly adjusted)
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04-23-2009, 11:39 PM | #17 |
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fender coverage
on some of the smaller quads i bought for my kid I used cheap plastic mudflaps fom pep boys,,cut to fit and slid into place between the fenders and foot boards using longer bolts and zip ties at the footboard.On larger atvs I've used the plastic sheeting from old above ground pools,people throw it out all the time,and youcan heat it and bend to fit ,it is usually blue,but with a can of krylon fusion takes paint well.
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04-24-2009, 12:10 PM | #18 |
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Good ideas, Fishman! I read somewhere too, that someone bought an $8 garbage can at Wal*Mart and cut plastic from that! I don't know why I didn't think of that! I'm usually very innovative and known for "thinking outside the box".
Back to the 250T: Another way to distinguish the later model from the old: The older ones (like mine) don't have the cross-shaped hub caps (that cover the lug nuts) and which are color coordinated to match the body color. The old ones just have the black rubber center caps. But of course, just because you see a pic of the newer model (as on Vbike's site) does not mean that that is what you will receive..... I'd bet that the NEWER model 250T is great- as it should be just like the V4SW only with a few upgrades. |
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04-24-2009, 03:14 PM | #19 |
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You know, after seeing your pictures, I can honestly say I like the look of the V4SW better. MAybe it would be different in person, but the V4SW seemed like a get down to business sport beast, whereas the 250T doesn't seem to have that flare to it. I am so temped to roll the dice and order one, luckily we got some news bills in so I have to put it off for a few weeks anyways. Hopefully by then vbike will get their poop in a group. MAybe if I ask Tim if he will promise me a newer version.... well if I do get one, I'll let you all know.
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04-24-2009, 04:37 PM | #20 | |
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04-27-2009, 01:53 AM | #22 |
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Another observation about this old-model 250T: It seems very unstable compared to the V4SW. I almost flipped it the very first time I rode it- and even though it is not as fast as the V4SW, I find myself rarely going over half throttle, as the irregularities of my pasture which were smoothed out by the V4SW, feel very destabilizing on this- like it's going to bounce off of every little thing.
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04-27-2009, 11:00 AM | #23 |
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is your width the same as the the v4sw.cause when i phoned tim about a month ago he mentioned a new model,the "T".but when he put up his write up in it i believe it has the same width as the v4sw.he told me it would be more stable cause it is wider and has bigger tires.im a liitle shy now about ordering it if i cant get 100% garantee im getting the newer style and it is wider.
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04-27-2009, 11:51 AM | #24 | |
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Basically, I'm not comfortable riding this at much over about 15MPH. Whereas I loved getting the V4SW up to 40-45MPH. I'd be curious to see how the newer 250T is (the one I was supposed to get)- but I still don't know if it would be up to the quality of the V4SW, as the V4SW is made by a different company. I'm really wondering what's up at Vbike. Tim says he's out of the V4SWs, yet on the site, it says "in stock" and lets you add them to your cart. Seems that only one other dealer has the V4SW (I forget what they call it...), so I'm wondering if they aren't discontinued? (I never should have sold mine!!) |
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04-28-2009, 04:09 PM | #25 |
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what does tim say about this?
is ti i've got your money and live with this older style atv |
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He has tried to make some very minor efforts- i.e. he said "send back the tires and I'll send the bigger ones" - but that wouldn't help much, as not only would they cost a fortune to ship and put the bike out of commission for a few weeks, but I'd then need to change the gearing, too! -And that doesn't address the other issues, like the different motor (He's trying to convince me it's the same motor...I'll post pics here and see what you guys think!)...and the lack of a sturdier hitch (I asked him on the phone before ordering if this had the sturdier hitch, and he assured me it did...but of course it didn't) Have some other issues as well, plus issues with the 300 Monster...and the little efforts that he has made to address the problems are not quite enough- especially considering I've spent $4500 with him since February. I would have rather appreciated it if he knew the actual products he was selling, and gave truthful answers (or simply an "I'm not sure") when consulted pre-purchase...rather than telling you one thing, and assuring that what one orders will be "exactly what is shown in the pictures on the website", and then when it comes, it is not. I spoke to my credit card company, and they said that I could dispute part of the charge, seeing that the bikes were not as advertised- but I'm saving that as a last resort- I'd rather work it out ammiccably if possible. Here is one of Tim's emails- only addressing some of the problems which I had mentioned in the email to which he is replying: Quote:
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04-28-2009, 10:35 PM | #27 |
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Mabey after some more break in the shifting will be less notchy.
Getting rid of a well running bike because you got dirty seems not to be a wise idea... :wink: . . . I know all about sport bikes and cow pastures...well experienced. The price you pay for broadsliding is sh!tspray.
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04-28-2009, 11:58 PM | #28 |
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Heh yep, yep, yep- never should've sold the V4SW. I just thought being it was so good, one of the "new & improved" (and more expensive) models would be perfection. Boy, was I wrong! (Well, maybe Iffin I woulda actually been sent the bike that actually pictured and described on their website.....)
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04-29-2009, 09:28 AM | #29 |
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I'm kinda surprised that Tim would not be aware of the differences between the bikes. When I went and picked up my bike from him last year, He insisted on opening the crate up and doing an inspection before we put it on my truck. He verified all the fasteners were there. Luckily he spotted a missing bolt for the handle bar clamp. Then he re-strapped the crate and I was on my way.
I feel that he had to see what you had in the crate based on my experience. |
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04-29-2009, 10:28 AM | #30 | |
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Then he tells me that he inadvertantly got a mixed shipment of 250T's that contained both the old and new models....then he tells me that the only difference between the two is the size of the tires (yet the bike pictyured on his site has the newer motor, better hitch, different graphics, etc.). And of course, when I asked about all of this on the phone prior to ordering, it was "exactly what you see in the pictures...". Tim seemed like a nice guy- but I now have to conclude that he is a BS artist. This bike actually says Sunl on the emissions label- which means it was manufactured for Sunl (Sunl is just an importer, like Vbike)- so how did Tim end up with this? Must have been one of their rejects or a stray left over at the end of a run. |
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