06-05-2022, 10:14 PM | #256 | |
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The Templar 250 is listed as a PE28, the Templar X is supposedly a PE30. I’d just play with the stock unit but mine is very, very lean. Needs an adjustable needle at least. The way they have the needle setup in the stock carb with a spring and a couple of plastic retainers doesn’t exactly inspire my confidence with regards to shimming or modifying needle height. For $85 bucks the Mikuni is a cheap upgrade and an industry standard. It does have plenty of power but it also runs quite hot-that’s my biggest concern. Everything I’ve gotten thus far is going toward the end of cooling it down a bit. After 25 miles even in a nice spring day here this thing is hot.
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06-06-2022, 12:06 AM | #257 | |
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For now the stock carb works well enough but it needs correct jetting. The carb on this bike is press fitted unable to open. You-All carbs are good carbs most are high quality but this one seems like a throwaway being it's pressed together. PWK 30mm Carburetor Motorcycle Power Jet Carb Racing Performance Universal For 100cc to 150cc Pit Dirt Bike Motocross Enduro On/Off Road ATV Quad Scooter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09J176RX9...ing=UTF8&psc=1 |
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06-06-2022, 12:07 AM | #258 | |
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06-06-2022, 06:36 AM | #259 |
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280 head temp on an air cooled bike is pretty decent. Heck anything below 300 is actually pretty cool running for an air cooled bike. That engine is decently powerful but still has fairly low compression, so it shouldn't be too incredibly hot.
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06-06-2022, 09:01 AM | #260 |
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Does anyone know the ngk model # for spark plug and best oil choose for this bike? I want to get both before the bike arrives…. Thanks in advance!
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06-06-2022, 11:19 AM | #261 |
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I read PE28 in the manual that came with the bike.
That is why I said it list PE28 for the Templar X. I haven't had it off yet, but I thought I saw YouAll stamp on it. It is Not a throw away carb, and it is NOT stamped together. Those are breakaway machine screws to prevent "tampering" with jetting. To get them out, use Dremel to cut a flathead screwdriver slot. As I said I haven't been into it yet, but I assume there will be a plug that needs drilling out on the pilot circuit adjust. I have the original YouAll on my Bashan Storm. It was easy to jet and shim the needle once I opened it. I replaced the screws with tiny Allen bolts if I need to get back in there. It is in fact a good carburetor. My Storm runs great! |
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06-06-2022, 11:24 AM | #262 | |
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06-06-2022, 11:45 AM | #263 |
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Regarding heat... I have only ridden for one off-road session, and I assume as a new engine, friction may be higher until it gets broken in. Also, I did not check valve clearance. I wanted to get the engine through a few low stress heat cycles (riding it moderately) to make sure the valves are mostly seated and any high spots on the cam, rockers etc are worn down. Then the adjustment will be more stable anyway.
Tight valve (exhaust) can cause excessive heat, so I won't wait much longer to get in there and adjust. Lean jetting also causes excessive heat. Once I get the carb reset and shimmed, and valves adjusted, and it has some hours on the engine, I will reassess the heat issue. There's room for oil coolers on the front frame tube (and threaded mounting posts). |
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06-06-2022, 02:08 PM | #264 | |
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Take the carb apart and check out the plastic retainers used to hold the needle in place. It would require modification of quite flimsy plastic retainers that clip into the sides of the slide, unlike others that use a metal plate retained by the slide spring pressure.
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06-06-2022, 03:16 PM | #265 | |
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06-06-2022, 05:51 PM | #266 | |
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I could make it work, no doubt about that, but I’d rather work on Japanese precision than Chinese imitation. In other news-I received my Henner motorsports timing advance key today. All told less than a week from when I placed the order last Tuesday night. I also received my amended title from X-pro: now says 19hp and under bodytype: Motorcycle.
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06-06-2022, 09:45 PM | #267 | |
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Got the carb off, and float bowl off. I see but haven't removed the jets. Yup. It is different. I saw the round plastic "retainer" in the slide. How many degrees advance on the key? |
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06-06-2022, 11:43 PM | #268 |
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Interesting I did not think it would be worth cutting the rivet's. I just had it figured I would upgrade the carb to something else. Maybe your on to something good. The carb does pretty good just has popping on deceleration. My plug shows good color not running very lean.
A properly jetted carb and advance flywheel key sound like it's going to be a very good upgrade. MSO says Motorcycle & no mention of off road only. What a deal no sweat getting it tagged. |
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06-06-2022, 11:55 PM | #269 | |
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Will the advance timing key cause more heat? |
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06-07-2022, 07:23 AM | #270 | |
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Weird setup isn’t it? Honestly if I wasn’t bogging in the midrange as badly as I am I never would have thought twice about it. On the plus side it appears (we shall see) that the Mikuni 28 is the same form factor as the 26, which would be slightly smaller than the original unit overall. I’ll post up tonight when, God willing, it’s all bolted together.
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