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03-07-2015, 06:27 PM | #2462 |
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03-07-2015, 06:29 PM | #2463 |
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I initially questioned my decision on purchasing an untested Chinese motorcycle. From the beginning there was just a a gut feeling that this bike would be different. Every picture I've seen of this bike exudes quality. The support of CSC, whether Iit be parts, service tutorials, customer involvement, accessories, etc, you name it has far exceeded my expectations. Most of all this forum confirms my purchase decision as being a good one. Though I've never met Steve, Joe or anyone on this forum, I consider all of you partners in this bike. Contrary to what the naysayers might think, there is no lack of support for the CSC RX3!!
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03-07-2015, 08:33 PM | #2464 |
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I was reading about the 2015 Honda Africa Twin and found this gem of a chart. It ranks a variety of dual sport and adventure bikes for dirt and street performance and charts them by displacement.
The yellow oval shows a 'gap' in bikes with dirt performance in the 700-1000cc range. But I wanted to highlight the other gap ... in small displacement adventure bikes ... exactly where the RX3 fits.
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03-07-2015, 09:05 PM | #2465 |
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That is an informative chart, and a perceptive insight. You contribute a lot of interesting information, Detours.
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03-07-2015, 09:29 PM | #2466 | |
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The standard Chinese forks use shorter springs with a large metal spacer on top of them. Consequently, the springs are not as strong as desired. Please note the springs, spacers, and cartridges in the following photograph. Unless the spacer is at the bottom, it appears the RX3 forks don't employ the large spacer. Therefore, the springs are probably longer and more robust. Traditionally, the Chinese bikes have had inferior suspensions. Therefore, I was pleasantly surprised when the magazine reviewers gave such good ratings to the RX3's suspension. The improved forks have undoubtedly contributed to the improved ride. Also, the RX3 employs a progressive, lower shock linkage, which has been notably absent in many Chinese motorcycles. In addition, Zongshen has added rebound damping and pneumatic pressure to the RX3 shock absorber. These features have undoubtedly improved the rear suspension. Now we learn Zongshen as developed new, upgraded forks which have added rebound damping. I am very impressed with the way Zongshen continues to improve this motorcycle. If the RX3 forks fit my other Zong's triple tree, I might move them over to the smaller bike, which will give me an excuse to install the upgraded forks on the RX3.
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03-07-2015, 10:39 PM | #2467 |
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Is anyone else impressed with the polish and finish on the internal engine and fork parts? It's one thing to see a nice polish on metal parts like handlebars, but seeing a good finish on internal parts shows attention to detail.
Two questions on the RX3 forks:
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03-07-2015, 11:09 PM | #2468 |
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Any one else notice the gold wheels in the wheel removal section of the CSC blog? come on Joe post a full pick of a bike with bling bling wheels .
I've had mix results with fork gaters on my KTM 200. I'm convinced they trap more dirt and mud then they keep out. Seemed like I went through fork seals faster with them on. I fall down pretty often on this bike and the plastic fork gards have done a good job protecting the stanchions. I don't think a fork brace will likely be required with inverted forks, I'd be surprised if you could find one that would fit anyway. |
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03-07-2015, 11:36 PM | #2469 | |
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There is no need for a fork brace. The 37mm USD forks are very robust; I have USD forks the same size on my Zongshen ZS200GY-2. Lower fork guards are sufficient protection for USD forks. The chevron shape of the fork guards on the RX3 is very stylish, but unconventional. I like the appearance of the chevron fork guards. The lower fork tubes are also somewhat encased, and protected by the front fender and its supports. In everything but the sloppiest conditions, I'm confident the stock fork guards should work very well. If proven necessary, it won't be hard to add a little additional protection. However, I agree with 3banger; I don't like gaiters.
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03-07-2015, 11:50 PM | #2470 |
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Forty-five minutes ago the Hanjin Germany was sailing southeast at 12.0 knots from the following location.
LAT: 41° 54' N LONG: 136° 08' W Having crossed the 42nd parallel, the vessel is now due west of the northern California coast.
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03-08-2015, 12:10 AM | #2471 |
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Ah, lots of questions and lots of developments.
Regarding the wheels, see the CSC blog. Please, no phone calls on this package yet; it's still in development. But it shreds. It's awesome. When the wheels are available we will post the info on the blog. Regarding the foam air filter and if it is oiled from the factory, I didn't think to ask when I watched them building the bikes on my most recent visit to Chongqing. The airbox is installed on the line as a complete subassembly (which is typical for assembly line operations in any industry). On our test bike that we used for the air filter maintenance tutorial, I couldn't tell by looking at it if had been oiled. That bike has about 8,000 miles on it and the filter was relatively clean. Most of its miles were on the dyno, so it was all indoors. I don't have any personal experience with Notoil, but based on the preferences expressed on this board, we'll look into stocking it. Regarding the questions on fork braces...same thing, I've never used them on any motorcycle. I've read positive and negative things about them, but I have no personal experience with them and certainly no experience using a fork brace on the RX3. On the question of fork gators, etc., some people can get damage on the forks that can ruin the fork seals. I've never had that happen on any motorcycle I've ever owned. The only motorcycle of the many I've owned that ever had a fork seal leak was a '95 Triumph 1200 Daytona, and that one failed from old age shortly after I bought the bike. I bought it brand new when it was 7 years old (it's a story for another time). |
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03-08-2015, 03:22 AM | #2472 | |
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03-08-2015, 08:22 AM | #2473 |
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That's a great look without the boxes. I had to do a double take before I recognized the bike. Just read a report stating it will take two to three months for the port of Long Beach to get back to normal.http://www.cnbc.com/id/102446078
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03-08-2015, 08:28 AM | #2474 |
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Of all the pictures I've seen the quality of all the parts blows me away. Dare I say "Yamaha quality".
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03-08-2015, 09:25 AM | #2475 |
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while your waiting for the slow boat
Here's a video of a Russian guy up to stuff with his engine on a Kayo T6 250. Not quite the same engine as ours but it is a ZS177M. http://www.topictimes.com/videos/aut...mgwdu1NHA.html ( some more vids under Related Videos) regarding the bluey round bit on the headlight . Mine has nothing in it |
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