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02-08-2015, 02:26 AM | #1757 | |
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02-08-2015, 02:35 AM | #1758 |
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Thanks Spud
And yes to the link, please!
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02-08-2015, 02:46 AM | #1759 | |
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02-08-2015, 10:05 AM | #1760 | ||
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I could really do with the torque setting for the bolt before i start jumping up and down on a spanner inside a scafold pole. I really dont want to screw any thing up at the moment ,ive got to ride it to work in the morning Regarding the plastics -- the Black plastic seems to be all the same , quite flexible .As you have said the orange plastic is different and painted ,though the outer seems to have a Clear Lacquer on top. The inside of the fork protector i have scrached with a screwdriver to reveal the black plastic underneath ( see arrow in picture ) |
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02-08-2015, 10:57 AM | #1761 |
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Wraps? instead of repaint?
I haven't used "wrap" before (in lieu of a repaint), but I'd bet I can get us a GBuy on sets of these in matching colors for our bikes when we need to repaint them. The wraps look like a very good paint job (see STeve's camo wrapped model pics from show).
This would make relatively "painless and very inexpensive maintainance of our bikes "paint" plastics. It will insure the quality of the finishes on the bikes remain high and uniform, rather than haphazard as many "painters" won't do what is necessary to insure quality equal to the Zong factory finish. Bad re-paint COULD give naysayers a bitch that would be hard to disprove, if the plastic fades annually (like on my MX Yamaha blue especially!) and was repainted with runs, not wetsanded or clearcoated, etc. I would like these bikes resale to stay high, ideally at or above purchase pricing, since they are so far below other bikes with much less standard equipment. That will PROVE the quality is not just a perception on Zong bikes, but actually is there long term, as used markets stay strong, honoring Zongs investment in quality design, engineering, and manufacturing! SOmeone needs to get these spares everyone wants/needs in stock, (like the shifter, LED headlight (unless we get that upgrade), a brake lever thats foldable like shifter (If available now), the wrap (for ALL painted surfaces be available, in case someone changes their color choice AFTER purchase!, or accident, tank dings or other issues, etc. I'd put up $ for the buy and stocking if someone who has experience will help order the stuff and deal with Taobao for a % or whatevers fair we agree on. Anyone interested pls PM me. Maybe even have a group of owners up to 4 or 5? to "own" the "store" and have discounted goods (Like Geno's Garage does for Dodge truck/Cummins vehicles. COmmon use wanted items that CSC doesn't stock like the reusable oil flters, the above listed stuff, a larger windshield, "loop type bags", heated grips, vest, etc, water proof/resistant gear, etc. |
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02-08-2015, 11:08 AM | #1762 |
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Also, we could then get the EJK done (and stock WITH tune already installed, develop other tunes for different mods (exhaust, open air filter, turbo kit (if enough interest after mine is installed and independantly tested by ADV pr someother adv online magazine.) etc.
It would be easy then to procure dealership only items then. If a superior tire etc comes out, get them discounted for our "members club" riders, again, like the Turbo diesel register "club". We could then get access to discounted newest stuff for our bikes, commonly needed stuff not sold elsewhere (or priced right), maintainance items in volume discounts, etc. There is NO Question, IMHO now, this bike will take off in sales, seems to be already creating HUGE interest and "buzz"/demand. SOmeone will do this eventually. I think some early adopters, who are buying, installing, and testing these items (and will always be testing and looking for better items and or deals might as well allow other owners access to what we already learned and know from our good and bad experience(s). We could then, legitimately ask for and get new items to evaluate, write up tests on here, then offer to "members on chinariders to get at a discounted price, saving $ for them with a safe and vetted product(s), also driving owners here for maintainance help, upgrade ideas, and ownership experience improvments, all good, IMHO. |
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02-08-2015, 11:25 AM | #1763 |
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I came across this site for spares . Could be interesting
http://www.cart100.com/Search?Search...x3&catId=0&p=5 |
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02-08-2015, 11:33 AM | #1764 |
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Decided to check the water level today . The cap is a bit tricky to reach so decided to take the tank side panel off.
First you need to take the black plastic strip off covering the battery.(not shown). purple arrows= 5mm allen key green arrows = screws view of inside tank panel regular pressure cap Random picture of front fork with protection removed |
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02-08-2015, 11:37 AM | #1765 |
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Chain Tension
this is on the chain side of the swinging arm.
it looks like they want you to check the measurement from the bottom of the fork to the top of chain |
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02-08-2015, 11:50 AM | #1766 |
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Kat, GREAT STUFF! Thanks!!
Wow, Zong has it GOING ON in these pics Kat posted, IMHO.
Kinda explains where/why they weigh a bit more, but damn, its handy for us owner riders, especially if we maintain them ourselves. Anyone else notice the pressure cap on the L/C tank? It even has a chain attaching it to a mount so it won't vibrate off/fall off riding and be lost on the trail! Thats a HUGE plus if you do lots of technical (slow and unimproved riding areas), overheated, then didn't tighten enough/properly, allowing it to come off the tank. W/O chain, you could be stranded, or worse, overheated badly, broken down out of cell range (w/o spot type device)! With the chain keeping it on the bike, simply pour some of your hydrating fluid (hopefully water, but anything would work to get back to a safer area to flush and refill. Losing the cap 30 + miles off road, could be life threatening! The more I see, the more I understand the weight! Those items add up, though are insignificant, individually. WIthout a cap, though, it COULD be YOUR WEIGHT!! (permanently! Yikes! |
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02-08-2015, 12:01 PM | #1767 |
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Kat, THx (re link as well). Thats VERY interesting!
Kind of what I was starting to realize as well re some pricing of accessories. If we have a GB type "club" for chinariders club, then we can offer stuff at a good price for members just wanting one or 2 items, w/o the hassle. The quantity discounts are exactly why I think I/we need to do this for our fellow owner/members/riders. This could fund the "member list" nation wide (world if interested) for owners that have parts, a garage, tools, and or mechanical experience they are willing to loan, rent, or otherwise help out any ZOng owners having a bad day while "out" and away from their home riding area. I would REALLY like to get this done, but can tell its gonna take some initial "help" to get it going. (ie financial help and a good amont of time and work, setting it up, and reaching "critical mass", where its both usefull to all members, and has enough listings to actually be able to service those needing help on road. There seems to be initial interest, but not enough people to sustain itself. (maybe when people actually get bikes and start riding it will create more immediate responses?)
I think we need a minimum of 2 per state, average, before its viable, and REALLY can help owners out on the road. WIth enough members, I could contact AAA, etc and get some help with towing, (ie:member discounts for groups plus more). |
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02-08-2015, 12:22 PM | #1768 | |
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8 mm bolt: 22 Nm, 16 Ft-lbs 10 mm bolt: 34 Nm, 25 Ft-lbs 12 mm bolt: 54 Nm, 40 Ft-lbs Quote:
Except for the lower fork guards, all of the impact areas of the bike are supplied with flexible, durable, black polypropylene covers. The color is molded into these covers, and they will not fade. The fuel tank is metal, so the paint is not a problem for that item. The colored plastic pieces are painted, whitish ABS. Any black color underneath is just a base coat. My Zongshen ZS200GY-2 has a similar combination of polypropylene and ABS plastic. I always purchase a spare piece for every ABS cover. When the stock piece fades, I install the spare cover. Then, at my leisure, I paint the removed cover with Krylon Fusion spray paint. This paint is inexpensive, covers very well, is scratch resistant, and comes in a wide variety of colors, one of which should match the color of the fuel tank. All of the ABS plastic pieces are for sale on Taobao, at very reasonable prices. For example, the lower fork guards sell for 25 Chinese Yuan apiece, which is $4 USD. Here is a link for the left, lower fork guard. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...ucket=6#detail Here is a link for the right, lower fork guard. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...ucket=6#detail Here is a link to the Krylon Fusion website, showing the wide variety of colors available in this excellent spray paint. http://www.krylon.com/products/fusion-for-plastic/
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02-08-2015, 12:24 PM | #1769 | |
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02-08-2015, 12:37 PM | #1770 |
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Katflap,
Once again, thanks for posting the great photos. If you have time, please do measure the counter shaft sprocket for us. Here are the torque specifications for different size bolts. 8 mm bolt: 22 Nm, 16 Ft-lbs 10 mm bolt: 34 Nm, 25 Ft-lbs 12 mm bolt: 54 Nm, 40 Ft-lbs
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