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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Arvada, CO
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
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Boo. I understand the business decision, but boo.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
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CSC is doing all the work to bring the bike to North America. I prefer the Zongshen logo, but I'm not getting agitated over a couple of stickers.
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 223
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To me, as close to a "perfect" dash, as humanly achievable.
Spud, u nailed it, GREAT PIC, and even better design.
Clear analog tach, with sweep needle, and large enough #'s to see, night or day and easily readable speedo! Perfect, IMHO... I'd LOVE to add the accessory panels, but 100 extra isn't doable currently:(.. Meds, Dr's, unexpected expenses, some related to Hep C, all conspire to cut out most extravagancies....except (hopefully, barring a DISASTER) the bike! hehe After all this drooling and anticipation, I 'm ready ![]() |
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#1610 |
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns Ga
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Really is to bad about the branding. If Zongshen's goal is to be a worldwide brand they are not making any steps forward by not controlling they're brand. Why is rebranding so endemic in the Chinese manufacturing culture. I'll suggest that it allows them to build to a price point and sell with little consequence. The quality and value equations are ignored for the sake of profit. In a quality culture ownership of the product ensures continuing high standards.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 25,054
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
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Zongshen allowed the RX3 to be rebadged as the Minsk TRX 300i in Belarus, because it was not interested in establishing a corporate presence in that relatively small marketplace. However, Zongshen believes it can compete in Russia, so it established a presence in that country as Zongshen Russia.
http://translate.google.com/translat...u/&prev=search Zongshen believes its market strength in North America is roughly equivalent to its market strength in Belarus, but it believes it can sell a significant number of motorcycles in Russia. Therefore, Zongshen shut down the operations of Zongshen America, and either maintained, or established new operations as Zongshen Russia.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
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Lest I be misunderstood, I do believe Zongshen is interested in improving quality control, developing new products, and expanding its markets. However, Zongshen is content to sell containers of motorcycles to North America via CSC. Zongshen withdrew its presence as Zongshen America, because it believes it can sell many more motorcycles in the third world. Zongshen obviously believes it isn't cost effective to maintain a corporate presence in the United States, and it is probably correct in that estimation.
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 144
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Rambling CX3 Thoughts
Thanks again to posters on this thread: its been great following developments while waiting through a cold winter to get my hands on my RX-3.
Random thoughts: Press reported on January 26 that the West Coast longshoremen were close to an agreement, but nothing since. One article said it would take months to get Los Angeles port back to normal, which reminded me of a point made by a poster on this thread. I concur on comments on rebadging. I liked the looks of the Zongshen badge but would be happy to build some recognition for CSC. I presume the rebadge also changes the logo on the sidecases and the instrument cluster. At least we are not going to have to explain what "Honley" means. (And what does Honley mean, anyway?) And good on CSC for keeping the RX-3 in the motorcycle press. Motorcycle.com just had an update with CSC's information on the accessories. A recent question was posed on the volume of the stock luggage. I would guess low to mid-20 liters per bag. But I'd also like to know the permitted weight for the bags. And speaking of accessories, one of my 'dream' options would be a set of extra size lids that could replace the lids on the stock bags. Swap the locks, bolt the new lids in place, and have space (possibly) for a full face helmet or two. Honda did that with their NT700V (aka Deauville), offering wider accessory lids for the integrated panniers. Although only offered in Europe, most US NT owners (including me) have swapped. But the side panniers still have the original modest weight limit, so you need to be careful. And last, based on the users manual, it seems the RX-3 has a chain with a master link, rather than a continuous chain. One more check in the "plus" category ![]() Last edited by NoVa Rider; 01-31-2015 at 11:26 AM. Reason: RX-3, not CX3. Sorry |
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Re the accessories list..
Spud, the grip warmers, how difficult is the install? How long do they last usually? Has anyone resolved the "handlebar (alum) pulling the heat away" issue? (How much of an issue is it, really?)
My list, currently (repost) PLUS CSC accessories added when they made them available...CSC accessories:Tank Bag, oil filters (until the stainless reusable ones are available).Is there a list for these anywhere or has someone started trying to source them, yet?Count me in, pls if so! Ebay (alredy have it ![]() ![]() RMMC sourced: Bar "Mitts", some type of grip heating, loop bag, led taillight/blinker assy,heated vest, header(possible) if a pipe bomb gets developed, Electronic Jet Kit, and exhaust. Seat solution to give some leg room and more comfortable longer rides in comfort. For the initial buy and trip home: Bar Mitts & heaters (if cold), loop bag, seat solution of some type (air?) until seat customization gets done., GPS mounted(have Ram mount now ![]() Someone else posted on here they were also considering this as well. |
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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People, you guys have short memories. Then again, not sure if this will play out the same here (i.e. exclusive distributorship which is probably the case due to CSC doing all the emissions stuff) but the Spud-based Zongshen was sold under three brand names in the US: Zongshen, Qlink, and Vento at one time. The Vento-branded bike had a camo-graphics scheme, and I don't remember what colors the Qlink was available in, while the Zongshen came in black, and super-duper fast, Spudrider orange and I believe one more forgettable color. I liked the camo theme of the Vento, but overall I coveted the orange Spudrider color the most.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
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Despite rebranding, Zong makes an excellent product. Aside from the rebranding, they have total control over manufacturing and quality.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
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