Took a plunge... trying a PP LXR250 EFI - Page 10

ChondaChondaChonda · 05-18-2017, 11:15 PM

The RaceTech spring for a 2012 KTM XC-F will fit the Fastace Pitster Pro LXR 250 shock:

The part number is 6325xx where "xx" is the kg/mm (stiffness) you desire.

Set sag at 33% with gear on. Without gear I am on my toes now. Seriously considering buying the spacers to lower it 2" correctly now. I'm not a MX guy and don't think I'll ever need more than 10" of travel. Plus I'm old and slow anymore. Falling down seems like less and less fun every year...

ChondaChondaChonda · 05-29-2017, 12:15 AM

Finally a day of pure riding. Installed an MT43 with a TuBliss system on the rear. Tire looks humongous! It is!

Great day in the mountains/desert near Cherry Creek. Lots of variety; everything from long sections of whoops to steeeep rocky goat trails to sand to cedar tree slaloms.

SPRING-
New rear spring has helped immensely. Bike corners very well now. No more worries about bottoming out on my footpegs. I was able to ride much more aggressively all day.

TANK-
Tank is a good fit. It's nice and narrow where you need to lock your knees on steep descents, but low enough that you can climb way forward on the seat during big climbs. On a few climbs I was all the way up against the gas cap!! As long as I could keep my weight forward there was nothing this bike wouldn't climb. And we did take on a few nasty climbs. I put 3.5 gallons in it, which just touches the "Acerbis" lettering on the side.

TIRE-
The MT43 is a DOT approved trials type tire. When combined with the TuBliss system it has an enormous foot-print after airing it down. I ran it at 7 psi today and that seemed perfect. In rough, rocky switchback climbs (where is impossible to carry much speed) it just gripped its way though.

OVERALL BIKE-
The EFI continues to impress. I mean, who doesn't love a self tuning carburetor?? The area takes riders from 6000-7200 ft above sea level, which has caused me issues with 2-strokes in the past. The motor pulls well right up through red-line and the rev limiter is so smooth that on very steep all out climbs I just kept the bike pegged out. It just keeps on keeping on. The bike starts well in neutral, but sometimes struggles in 1st gear with the clutch pulled in; I've been chalking it up to tightness in the clutch slowing the starter a bit. MY hope is that it gets looser with break in.

The front forks were popping me up on doll-head to baby head sized rocks for the first few hours. We stopped and I took the time to pull the caps on the bottom of the forks and adjusted the clickers about 6 turns softer. This really helped keep the front end planted. The rear shock and spring were so good I never messed with them, but I am sure some tuning might be beneficial.

The only issue the Pitster had all day was a throttle that started to get sticky late in the day. It wasn't snapping back to closed, so i had to twist it back. This caused some arm pump and concern. I will dig into it and see if the return spring broke or got gummed up somehow. Luckily the bike has dual cables making it safe to ride out. My old 300 had a single cable that stuck open on me a few times! Man what a ride that was.

So far I'm loving the Pitster Pro LXR250. Today's ride it showed itself to be a solid platform for a trail/enduro/desert all-around bike.

ChondaChondaChonda · 06-07-2017, 08:40 PM

Thought I would mention that the throttle sticking issue turned out to be my fault. A combo of excess grip glue and dropping the bike allowing dirt to get jammed up the throttle tube caused the issue.
Pulled the assembly and cleaned the glue off with a razor blade and it snaps closed like it should now.

ChondaChondaChonda · 06-22-2017, 09:35 AM

dpl096 · 06-22-2017, 10:22 PM

Nice !

hertz9753 · 06-23-2017, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

As CSCDude would say, can we get a link?

http://www.pitsterpro.com/bike/overview/id/66

It's not cheap but I didn't think it would be with specs. The price is still less than a Honda CRF250L dual sport and Pitsterpro claims 32hp from that engine.

OUTERLIMITS · 06-23-2017, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

http://www.pitsterpro.com/bike/overview/id/66

It's not cheap but I didn't think it would be with specs. The price is still less than a Honda CRF250L dual sport and Pitsterpro claims 32hp from that engine.

Seems like a real nice bike. I like the way that the KTM tank bolts right up. Seems like the closest thing to compare it to would be the AJP PR5, but that bike is another $1500 or so. They may even use the same engine as the AJP uses one made by Zongshen.

Ron B · 06-23-2017, 04:51 PM

very cool bike. good thing about the rx3 motor is you can get your oil filters and engine parts from CSC.

2LZ · 06-23-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron B

very cool bike. good thing about the rx3 motor is you can get your oil filters and engine parts from CSC.

I wonder if the exhaust valves are easier to get at?

ChondaChondaChonda · 06-30-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

I wonder if the exhaust valves are easier to get at?

Will try and get some pictures when I jump into this; haven't been riding as much as I'd like.

With the dry conditions and high fire risk season we are having; I'm hesitant to get off the tarmac until I get the FMF Q4 mounted up. The good news is that the welding wire I ordered to weld the PP steel adapter to the FMF muffler arrived today. It should be a busy weekend in the garage!!

pete · 06-30-2017, 07:16 PM

PP steel... ??

do you mean stainless steel ?

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ChondaChondaChonda · 06-30-2017, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

PP steel... ??

do you mean stainless steel ?

...

Uhh...

I should have clarified- the PP (Pitster Pro) header pipe clamp is steel.

The FMF muffler is stainless and the inlet is too big, so I am cutting the end off of the PP muffler to adapt the FMF to the PP. Some pictures will make it sensible. I hope.

Ariel Red Hunter · 06-30-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChondaChondaChonda

Uhh...

I should have clarified- the PP (Pitster Pro) header pipe clamp is steel.

The FMF muffler is stainless and the inlet is too big, so I am cutting the end off of the PP muffler to adapt the FMF to the PP. Some pictures will make it sensible. I hope.

How much too big is it? In my younger days we used to cut sheet copper in a strip. When I did it I cut the end at a 45 degree angle, left the other end too long, and trimmed it for a good fit. Once I had to use two strips, one on top of the other to get a tight fit. I staggered the joins to reduce exhaust leakage...ARH

ChondaChondaChonda · 07-01-2017, 03:36 PM

ARH- this should answer your question;

This is the stock muffler and clamp. There is a thick exhaust gasket inside the end "bell".

Here is the stock muff next to the FMF. The inlet on the FMF is 51mm and the bell OD is 50mm.

I briefly considered using this adapter made for 2008+ Ninja 250 systems, but the angle was not coming out quite right and the small end wasn't *quite* going to stretch out enough to work. More clamps than necessary too.

ChondaChondaChonda · 07-01-2017, 03:38 PM

A little chopsaw action and PRESTO; an FMF adapter!

The bell off the stock muffler is a perfect fit in the FMF end;

05-18-2017, 11:15 PM	#136
ChondaChondaChonda Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 547	It's official! The RaceTech spring for a 2012 KTM XC-F will fit the Fastace Pitster Pro LXR 250 shock: The part number is 6325xx where "xx" is the kg/mm (stiffness) you desire. Set sag at 33% with gear on. Without gear I am on my toes now. Seriously considering buying the spacers to lower it 2" correctly now. I'm not a MX guy and don't think I'll ever need more than 10" of travel. Plus I'm old and slow anymore. Falling down seems like less and less fun every year... __________________ 1993 CR125 powered by Zongshen 223cc OHC 2̶0̶1̶6̶ ̶L̶X̶R̶ ̶2̶5̶0̶ ̶E̶F̶I̶ ̶ Sold 2018 GPX Moto FSE250R 1993 Fantic Key-Roo 250
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05-29-2017, 12:15 AM	#137
ChondaChondaChonda Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 547	Tested new spring, new tank, new tire... Finally a day of pure riding. Installed an MT43 with a TuBliss system on the rear. Tire looks humongous! It is! Great day in the mountains/desert near Cherry Creek. Lots of variety; everything from long sections of whoops to steeeep rocky goat trails to sand to cedar tree slaloms. SPRING- New rear spring has helped immensely. Bike corners very well now. No more worries about bottoming out on my footpegs. I was able to ride much more aggressively all day. TANK- Tank is a good fit. It's nice and narrow where you need to lock your knees on steep descents, but low enough that you can climb way forward on the seat during big climbs. On a few climbs I was all the way up against the gas cap!! As long as I could keep my weight forward there was nothing this bike wouldn't climb. And we did take on a few nasty climbs. I put 3.5 gallons in it, which just touches the "Acerbis" lettering on the side. TIRE- The MT43 is a DOT approved trials type tire. When combined with the TuBliss system it has an enormous foot-print after airing it down. I ran it at 7 psi today and that seemed perfect. In rough, rocky switchback climbs (where is impossible to carry much speed) it just gripped its way though. OVERALL BIKE- The EFI continues to impress. I mean, who doesn't love a self tuning carburetor?? The area takes riders from 6000-7200 ft above sea level, which has caused me issues with 2-strokes in the past. The motor pulls well right up through red-line and the rev limiter is so smooth that on very steep all out climbs I just kept the bike pegged out. It just keeps on keeping on. The bike starts well in neutral, but sometimes struggles in 1st gear with the clutch pulled in; I've been chalking it up to tightness in the clutch slowing the starter a bit. MY hope is that it gets looser with break in. The front forks were popping me up on doll-head to baby head sized rocks for the first few hours. We stopped and I took the time to pull the caps on the bottom of the forks and adjusted the clickers about 6 turns softer. This really helped keep the front end planted. The rear shock and spring were so good I never messed with them, but I am sure some tuning might be beneficial. The only issue the Pitster had all day was a throttle that started to get sticky late in the day. It wasn't snapping back to closed, so i had to twist it back. This caused some arm pump and concern. I will dig into it and see if the return spring broke or got gummed up somehow. Luckily the bike has dual cables making it safe to ride out. My old 300 had a single cable that stuck open on me a few times! Man what a ride that was. So far I'm loving the Pitster Pro LXR250. Today's ride it showed itself to be a solid platform for a trail/enduro/desert all-around bike. __________________ 1993 CR125 powered by Zongshen 223cc OHC 2̶0̶1̶6̶ ̶L̶X̶R̶ ̶2̶5̶0̶ ̶E̶F̶I̶ ̶ Sold 2018 GPX Moto FSE250R 1993 Fantic Key-Roo 250
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06-22-2017, 09:35 AM	#139
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06-23-2017, 04:51 PM	#143
Ron B Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tuscaloosa Al. Posts: 433	very cool bike. good thing about the rx3 motor is you can get your oil filters and engine parts from CSC. __________________ Wingless Hawk, 2016 orange RX3, 97 wide glide,2003 KLR
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06-07-2017, 08:40 PM	#138
ChondaChondaChonda Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 547	Thought I would mention that the throttle sticking issue turned out to be my fault. A combo of excess grip glue and dropping the bike allowing dirt to get jammed up the throttle tube caused the issue. Pulled the assembly and cleaned the glue off with a razor blade and it snaps closed like it should now.
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07-01-2017, 03:36 PM	#149
ChondaChondaChonda Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 547	FMF complete! ARH- this should answer your question; This is the stock muffler and clamp. There is a thick exhaust gasket inside the end "bell". Here is the stock muff next to the FMF. The inlet on the FMF is 51mm and the bell OD is 50mm. I briefly considered using this adapter made for 2008+ Ninja 250 systems, but the angle was not coming out quite right and the small end wasn't quite going to stretch out enough to work. More clamps than necessary too. Last edited by ChondaChondaChonda; 07-01-2017 at 03:46 PM. Reason: add ninja adapter
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07-01-2017, 03:38 PM	#150
ChondaChondaChonda Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 547	FMF part 2 A little chopsaw action and PRESTO; an FMF adapter! The bell off the stock muffler is a perfect fit in the FMF end;
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