Asiawing

Oengus · 05-26-2010, 08:04 AM

What about the Asiawing bikes, I wonder if any are in the US?

This bike has a 500cc engine with 40hp and is based on technology once used by this Italian motorcycle manufacturer. http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/index2.html

Maybe remove the plastic zig zag and give it a round headlight? It is not the looks that keep this bike out of the market it has been EPA/DOT for sometime, itâ€™s the price it would cost and the lack of support in the states.

Has anyone every asked whatâ€™s a unit cost to import these? Asiawing is small, they are a small company and with that what, more maneuverable and agile? But they also have limited resources.

The technology they use is not patented its older technology and reused, that ok though if they could be produced in volume the price could be kept down, but probably not under $4,000.00?

If that bike was under or around $4,000.00 and offered comprehensive support and demonstrated reliability it could take some of the market.

Oengus · 05-26-2010, 08:09 AM

You can do a lot with a platform, here is another version of that same platform.

Oengus · 05-26-2010, 08:18 AM

They say designâ€¦.but what that translates into is a reverse engineered design.
Seriously they are all copies of something somebody already made, every time I research one I find the original DNA.

Oengus · 05-26-2010, 08:23 AM

The asiawing spark is based on a Cagiva 500

Oengus · 05-26-2010, 08:26 AM

oh that cagiva looks like something else....

copy copy copy.

katoranger · 05-27-2010, 12:13 AM

Cagiva used Ducati engines. That would be something interesting.

Allen

Oengus · 05-27-2010, 01:09 AM

here is another picture of the Canyon....the bike that look like another bike.

here is the 600cc Canyon

What Ducati engine is it, that Cagiva used?

Oengus · 05-27-2010, 01:45 AM

Ducatiâ€¦did they ever offer a single cylinder engine? Their 400 and 600 were L-Twin.

The shared engines were in these 900cc bikes called elefants

The Jialing is built on a Cagiva Gran Canyon 600cc
The Asiawing its built on a Cagiva River 500cc, the black bike above is advertised on B2B site as an Asiawing Tourister. But it looks to be a twin?

Ducati had a 500 twin but that's circa 1970's?

It is interesting.....

Does Harley Own Cagiva?

Oengus · 05-27-2010, 02:10 AM

I know I went off the deep end on the Jialing, but looking at this version I would have to say it looks like a good â€œadventureâ€ bike. If you are traveling that set up would be ideal.

The colors on this Gran Canyon I actually like and the colored keyed storage looks great.

I would like to see all the engine, frame and rims all blacked out, that's what changes I would have made, I think Jialing took its version in the wrong direction IMO.

katoranger · 05-27-2010, 02:09 PM

I am not sure of the exact engine. I just know that at some of the cagiva bikes used ducati engines. I believe they were twins.

Allen

Oengus · 05-30-2010, 12:54 PM

http://www.mathewscollection.com/car...php?listing=55

The 900cc engines?

Oengus · 05-30-2010, 01:04 PM

The engines are Cagiva engines not Ducati they are originated from the W16 engine. The W16 are the 500 and 600cc engines and developed off the W12 350cc engine.

http://translate.google.com/translat...n%23Canyon_600

Oengus · 05-30-2010, 01:14 PM

Not that wiki is a good source of information but here is the article they have on Cagiva and it claim as of 2009 that Cagiva is owned by Harley Davidson.

katoranger · 05-31-2010, 01:42 AM

The cagiva elefant engine was derived from the ducati desmo. The elefant is the only cagiva I have seen in person. I can't remember what displacement, but I believe it was a 750. Something like an 86 model. The engine was clearly ducati. Very nice bike. This was a twin. I am not sure if the singles were of ducati origin.

http://translate.google.com/translat...n%23Canyon_600

05-26-2010, 08:04 AM	#1
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Asiawing What about the Asiawing bikes, I wonder if any are in the US? This bike has a 500cc engine with 40hp and is based on technology once used by this Italian motorcycle manufacturer. http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/index2.html Maybe remove the plastic zig zag and give it a round headlight? It is not the looks that keep this bike out of the market it has been EPA/DOT for sometime, itâ€™s the price it would cost and the lack of support in the states. Has anyone every asked whatâ€™s a unit cost to import these? Asiawing is small, they are a small company and with that what, more maneuverable and agile? But they also have limited resources. The technology they use is not patented its older technology and reused, that ok though if they could be produced in volume the price could be kept down, but probably not under $4,000.00? If that bike was under or around $4,000.00 and offered comprehensive support and demonstrated reliability it could take some of the market.
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05-27-2010, 12:13 AM	#6
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Cagiva used Ducati engines. That would be something interesting. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-27-2010, 02:09 PM	#10
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I am not sure of the exact engine. I just know that at some of the cagiva bikes used ducati engines. I believe they were twins. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-31-2010, 01:42 AM	#14
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	The cagiva elefant engine was derived from the ducati desmo. The elefant is the only cagiva I have seen in person. I can't remember what displacement, but I believe it was a 750. Something like an 86 model. The engine was clearly ducati. Very nice bike. This was a twin. I am not sure if the singles were of ducati origin. http://translate.google.com/translat...n%23Canyon_600 __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-26-2010, 08:09 AM	#2
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	You can do a lot with a platform, here is another version of that same platform.
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05-26-2010, 08:18 AM	#3
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	They say designâ€¦.but what that translates into is a reverse engineered design. Seriously they are all copies of something somebody already made, every time I research one I find the original DNA.
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05-26-2010, 08:23 AM	#4
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	The asiawing spark is based on a Cagiva 500
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05-26-2010, 08:26 AM	#5
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	oh that cagiva looks like something else.... copy copy copy.
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05-27-2010, 01:09 AM	#7
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	here is another picture of the Canyon....the bike that look like another bike. here is the 600cc Canyon What Ducati engine is it, that Cagiva used?
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05-27-2010, 01:45 AM	#8
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Ducatiâ€¦did they ever offer a single cylinder engine? Their 400 and 600 were L-Twin. The shared engines were in these 900cc bikes called elefants The Jialing is built on a Cagiva Gran Canyon 600cc The Asiawing its built on a Cagiva River 500cc, the black bike above is advertised on B2B site as an Asiawing Tourister. But it looks to be a twin? Ducati had a 500 twin but that's circa 1970's? It is interesting..... Does Harley Own Cagiva?
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05-27-2010, 02:10 AM	#9
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I know I went off the deep end on the Jialing, but looking at this version I would have to say it looks like a good â€œadventureâ€ bike. If you are traveling that set up would be ideal. The colors on this Gran Canyon I actually like and the colored keyed storage looks great. I would like to see all the engine, frame and rims all blacked out, that's what changes I would have made, I think Jialing took its version in the wrong direction IMO.
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05-30-2010, 12:54 PM	#11
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	http://www.mathewscollection.com/car...php?listing=55 The 900cc engines?
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05-30-2010, 01:04 PM	#12
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	The engines are Cagiva engines not Ducati they are originated from the W16 engine. The W16 are the 500 and 600cc engines and developed off the W12 350cc engine. http://translate.google.com/translat...n%23Canyon_600
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05-30-2010, 01:14 PM	#13
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Not that wiki is a good source of information but here is the article they have on Cagiva and it claim as of 2009 that Cagiva is owned by Harley Davidson.
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