Vitacci Tank 200 EFI Deluxe

[Picollo]

I found the 32-trottle body on eBay. Can you give me a link where I can get the fuel injector and which exhaust upgrade you use? Thanks.

Never mind, I found it and already ordered it.
I didn't buy a new exhaust. I am unsure if that would be contra-productive since no O2 sensor is on it.
I checking for updates here since it seams you know what you doing.

[danklyrides]

This is the exhaust I got. It has the bung for the O2 sensor built in.

I'm glad you found the injector! The place I bought mine from didn't have any more.

Cheers!
Dankly

[danklyrides]

I searched for a high-flow alternative for the stock paper air filter but I wasn't able to find one that fits in the Tank air box. So back to AliExpress!!

Intake kit
Coupling
Filter

I had to compress the aluminum intake tube about 5mm to fit nicely under the engine pivot cross bar (red arrow in picture). I just squeezed it in my bench vise.

I wanted to keep the evap system and crankcase vent functioning so I drilled a hole in the tube and used a tire valve stem as a fitting (green arrow in picture). I like the way it came out.

I took it for a 30 mile ride and it is running great! I'm very pleased with it and think I am done with performance related modifications. Just to be clear, I didn't NEED to do any of this but I really enjoy tinkering and it is really affordable on a GY6.

The last pic is my temporary solution for the transmission vent tube. The little stick on holder that will keep it up and out of the way for now

I think the next thing I will look at modifying is the suspension. The rear shocks could definitely be better

Cheers!
Dankly

[Picollo]

Thanks..
Humm... OK... What are you doing with the ECU? I mean, the thing runs Comifornia style and is pretty lean. Opening the air without richer fuel flow makes the fuel even leaner. Any ID? Or is the control unit still sufficient without modification?
Purchasing a so-called racing ECU (I haven't found one for the 168cc EFI GY6) does not change the performance if the incoming and outgoing airflow is not changed. An ECU makes sense if the airflow has been improved and an unlimited injector is installed. If only the exhaust was replaced, you don't need a new ECU.

[danklyrides]

I was figuring that with the fatter injector and more air the ECU should still be able to manage the A/F mixture based of the O2 sensor. I am certainly no expert though and will gladly give my money to the smart person that makes a replacement ECU for this engine. Perhaps PMC will come up with something that works well with their TB and injector?

[Picollo]

Originally Posted by danklyrides

I am certainly no expert though and will gladly give my money to the smart person that makes a replacement ECU for this engine. Perhaps PMC will come up with something that works well with their TB and injector?

Me too, hurry up PMC,

I'm not a professional either. But what you say makes sense to me.
Let's see what happens.
Normally I'm no longer a motorcycle tinkerer. Yes, I used to be. Today, at almost 70, I've have enough with gardening and repairs in and around the house to do.
Riding a motorcycle is my hobby, lying on the ground and cursing because something doesn't want to happen the way I want it, not so much anymore.
Well, the idea of ​​the scooter came to me because I'm always looking for something new. Something I haven't done or participated in yet. I found the Scooter Cannonball. I thought I'd ride it since this isn't a motorcycle race. It's not about speed, it's about being there. No, I don't aim for a trophy. I thought I'd buy a Vitacci and prove that you can do that with a china scooter. With a Vespa 300 GTS everyone can do it. As far as reliability goes, that doesn't worry me. I think the Tank 200EFI is a stable vehicle that can compete with other highly praised and well-known products. I now have 1800 miles on this Vitacci Tank 200 EFI, and nothing has shown me that such a scooter is unreliable. The only thing that worries me is the top speed. A 170cc fuel injected engine should do over 50 mph. I'm currently working on that. A Piaggio Liberty 50cc makes 50 mph and mit heavier rollers up to 55mph.
BTW, this time the Scooter Cannonball 2025 will be driven from Seaside OR to South Padre Island TX,
My wife travels with the car trailer behind me or near me, because of spare parts and at 70 I don't want to be stranded with a breakdown with the scooter. It's quite a stretch after all. The whole thing will take place in June 2025. We could form a China Scuderia team if someone wants to. LoL.
https://scootercannonball.com/

[danklyrides]

Right on! I was signed up for the SCB in 2023 but I ended up backing out because I crashed my KLX300 in the dirt and fractured 3 vertebrae in my back. I'm not signed up for the 2025. My big trip for 2025 is going to be the Three Flags Classic again. I did it this year and had a ton of fun!

I also don't see any reason that the Tank couldn't do the SCB. I think that adding an oil cooler would be a very good idea since you will be WOT for 3,000+ miles. I put a cooler on my Tank and it more than doubles the oil capacity and I assume keeps everything cooler. I will probably do a write-up of how I did it on here at some point.

I modified my CVT with this NCY kit from GY6Racing. The GY6-B has a 17mm crank so it is hard to find the right parts. I bought one of these and had a machine shop cut it to the length I needed.

I wish you the best in your scooter prep!

Cheers!
dankly

[Mudflap]

There is a guy who does youtube videos about scooters who is coming all the way from Romania to do the cannonball. He'll be shipping his SYM 170cc scooter over for the ride. His channel is called "Ride with Alex". Seems like it would be cheaper to buy a scooter over here then sell it after the ride but he's doing it for sentimental reasons.


I suggest they take Oregon hwy 242 over the Cascades. Excellent scooter road.

[Picollo]

Originally Posted by Mudflap

called "Ride with Alex". Seems like it would be cheaper to buy a scooter over here than sell it after the ride but he's doing it for sentimental reasons.

Hummmm cheaper? Maybe!
Oh well. I could also buy a Vitacci in let's say Seattle. Then I wouldn't have to ship it 2000 miles from TX to Seaside OR. But what about the setup for the Cannonball? In addition, there is the first inspection and let's be honest, you can't just take a scooter brand new and driven 0 miles from the transport box onto such a route.
Buying and preparing the scooter in Romania makes sense for people traveling from overseas.
With ARDI Express a container for this route round trip costs 2400 USD. The container has no weight limit and 5-6 midsize scooters and a lot of parts, equipment etc, fit in the container. That makes sense to me.

Originally Posted by Mudflap

........ I put a 20 ohm 1 watt resistor in series with the cylinder head temperature sensor and it never happened again,.....

Could you explain this to me in more detail? I'm not an electrician.
So like now, I cut the heat sensor cable and just solder the resistor in between?

[Mudflap]

Originally Posted by Picollo

Hummmm cheaper? Maybe!
Oh well. I could also buy a Vitacci in let's say Seattle. Then I wouldn't have to ship it 2000 miles from TX to Seaside OR. But what about the setup for the Cannonball? In addition, there is the first inspection and let's be honest, you can't just take a scooter brand new and driven 0 miles from the transport box onto such a route.
Buying and preparing the scooter in Romania makes sense for people traveling from overseas.
With ARDI Express a container for this route round trip costs 2400 USD. The container has no weight limit and 5-6 midsize scooters and a lot of parts, equipment etc, fit in the container. That makes sense to me.

Could you explain this to me in more detail? I'm not an electrician.
So like now, I cut the heat sensor cable and just solder the resistor in between?

I wouldn't put the resistor in the thermistor wire unless your check engine light comes on on hot days. They may have updated the firmware since mine was made in2021. If you do put it on just cut 1 of the 2 wires and put the resistor between the 2 ends. That just fools the computer into thinking the engine is slightly cooler.

[Picollo]

Originally Posted by Mudflap

I wouldn't put the resistor in the thermistor wire unless your check engine light comes on on hot days. They may have updated the firmware since mine was made in2021. If you do put it on just cut 1 of the 2 wires and put the resistor between the 2 ends. That just fools the computer into thinking the engine is slightly cooler.

Hummm. My check engine light never came on and the OBD has no readings. But still, If I am a little rough on the gas or driving the motor for an hour, I have to wait 10 minutes before I can restart the motor. It never stops on its own. But when I turn it off at the gas station when I drive the scooter for a while, I find myself having to push the scooter out of the way, because the scooter will not restart for a while. I don't know what else it could be, besides the heat sensor. I may order a new sensor. That may help.

[danklyrides]

Picollo,

I found a thread that talks about a hot start issue. It is for a carbureted scoot but the fundamentals are the same so maybe it will give you some ideas.

Some other thoughts:
-Does your fuel level make a difference? As in, it only exhibits this behavior when full or low on fuel?
-Do you ever hear a hiss or feel like there is pressure or a vacuum in the tank when you take off the fuel cap?
-Have you checked that all of the parts that bolt to the throttle body are secure? Injector, idle air control, TPS, etc. My stock fuel injector screw came loose by itself.

Cheers!
Dankly

[Mudflap]

Originally Posted by Picollo

Hummm. My check engine light never came on and the OBD has no readings. But still, If I am a little rough on the gas or driving the motor for an hour, I have to wait 10 minutes before I can restart the motor. It never stops on its own. But when I turn it off at the gas station when I drive the scooter for a while, I find myself having to push the scooter out of the way, because the scooter will not restart for a while. I don't know what else it could be, besides the heat sensor. I may order a new sensor. That may help.

It would be easy enough to try the resistor fix and remove it if it doesnt help. I used a couple of those Wago wire connectors when experimenting with different resistor values.

[Picollo]

Originally Posted by Mudflap

It would be easy enough to try the resistor fix and remove it if it doesnt help. I used a couple of those Wago wire connectors when experimenting with different resistor values.

It's definitely the heat sensor. I drove home from friends late this evening. At first, I thought I would take the Honda Rebel to visit Sindy and Fred, but I took the scooter because Fred hadn't seen the scooter yet.
Well, it was 9:30 p.m. and 47 degrees Fahrenheit. It's about 22 miles, brrrrrr. I drove as fast as I could (flat stretch 52 and free fall 54). When I got home and turned off the scooter, I thought: Let's see if it starts again. I waited about 4 minutes (about the time it takes me to refuel) and tried again. Click and the scooter runs. So it must be the sensor.