"Dual Sport"- Enduro Vader 125. Grom Clone

GScott · 11-23-2020, 05:35 AM

Can I put this here? I just ordered a Chinese Grom clone. Vader 125-10.

Most of the info about these bikes is in the street section. Guys lowering the exhaust, street tires, swapping bigger engines. Etc.

I am interested in taking my clone mini offroad. So knobbies to start with. Shinko Mobbers I think.

Most pressing is raising the exhaust header, it just hangs way too low. Surprised I've found nothing about raising those. As I understand it, Honda DAX/Z50 style header will fit the bike, since the engine is based on the CRF50. And a skid plate.

Anyone know of a header pipe that will tuck into the bodywork of a Grom clone? Or used a DAX pipe on a Vader?

Then the front fender needs to be raised. Anyone done that? I've seen a couple pics of Groms with high fenders, but surprisingly little. I haven't got my bike yet to see how I might mount a dirt fender to the forks. Anyone done this or raised the stock front fender?

I can't be the first guy wants to play with their cheap mini bike in the dirt! It's almost like being a kid again, except the ground is harder now...

culcune · 11-23-2020, 09:40 AM

There was a guy from the L.A. area who did a great job turning his Tao Hellcat into a dual-sport. I haven't seen him post for a year or two.

Hellkitty · 01-03-2023, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

There was a guy from the L.A. area who did a great job turning his Tao Hellcat into a dual-sport. I haven't seen him post for a year or two.

Hey Culcune! I think you might be talking about my bike. I just posted it for sale on this forum.

Sorry, just realized this is a really old thread.

Hellkitty · 01-03-2023, 09:19 PM

Here is what I did with my Taotao Hellcat.

XLsior · 01-04-2023, 02:02 AM

is that a moped fuel tank...

seems a bit undersized....

Bruces · 01-04-2023, 08:22 AM

Looks a lot like a z50 tank

McQueen216 · 01-04-2023, 09:45 AM

With horizontal engines… downward facing exhaust will always be an issue. Something with a vertical engine - like a Kymco Space, 4 valve, 149cc, EFI, counterbalanced, would far more easily let you divert the exhaust to the side of the bike, up high - scrambler style. They’re even sold as aftermarket in Taiwan - where the bike is made and sold in masse.

11-23-2020, 05:35 AM	#1
GScott Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 17	"Dual Sport"- Enduro Vader 125. Grom Clone Can I put this here? I just ordered a Chinese Grom clone. Vader 125-10. Most of the info about these bikes is in the street section. Guys lowering the exhaust, street tires, swapping bigger engines. Etc. I am interested in taking my clone mini offroad. So knobbies to start with. Shinko Mobbers I think. Most pressing is raising the exhaust header, it just hangs way too low. Surprised I've found nothing about raising those. As I understand it, Honda DAX/Z50 style header will fit the bike, since the engine is based on the CRF50. And a skid plate. Anyone know of a header pipe that will tuck into the bodywork of a Grom clone? Or used a DAX pipe on a Vader? Then the front fender needs to be raised. Anyone done that? I've seen a couple pics of Groms with high fenders, but surprisingly little. I haven't got my bike yet to see how I might mount a dirt fender to the forks. Anyone done this or raised the stock front fender? I can't be the first guy wants to play with their cheap mini bike in the dirt! It's almost like being a kid again, except the ground is harder now... Last edited by GScott; 11-23-2020 at 02:29 PM.
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culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	There was a guy from the L.A. area who did a great job turning his Tao Hellcat into a dual-sport. I haven't seen him post for a year or two. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,444	is that a moped fuel tank... seems a bit undersized....
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Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,649	Looks a lot like a z50 tank
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01-04-2023, 09:45 AM	#7
McQueen216 Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 231	With horizontal engines… downward facing exhaust will always be an issue. Something with a vertical engine - like a Kymco Space, 4 valve, 149cc, EFI, counterbalanced, would far more easily let you divert the exhaust to the side of the bike, up high - scrambler style. They’re even sold as aftermarket in Taiwan - where the bike is made and sold in masse.
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