2022 Templar X 250 build quality and assembly

[gtrmaster88]

I too appreciate these posts! I just got my Templar X in from Powersportsmax, it's all assembled, only one issue my buddy that helped assemble it and I have been trying to get worked out.

The carb seems to be running the bike too rich according to my more mechanically-inclined friend. It's naturally a little cold-natured, but as the bike warms up, it still doesn't want to idle, and it will get so hot that the exhaust will glow red hot at the cat-to-manifold side if you let it. We can't find any way to set/adjust the carb on this model other than an idle-set adjustment screw. I called Powersportsmax today and told them of our findings...their solution? Sending me another stock carb

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Originally Posted by gtrmaster88

I too appreciate these posts! I just got my Templar X in from Powersportsmax, it's all assembled, only one issue my buddy that helped assemble it and I have been trying to get worked out.

The carb seems to be running the bike too rich according to my more mechanically-inclined friend. It's naturally a little cold-natured, but as the bike warms up, it still doesn't want to idle, and it will get so hot that the exhaust will glow red hot at the cat-to-manifold side if you let it. We can't find any way to set/adjust the carb on this model other than an idle-set adjustment screw. I called Powersportsmax today and told them of our findings...their solution? Sending me another stock carb

Go look at Thumpers thread on the Templar X here. He goes into detail about how to get into the stock carburetor and tune it. The factory carbs have inserts covering the adjustment screws. You just have to remove them. They are really good carbs. Yours just needs rejetting.

[Thumper]

It would be highly unusual if it were sent jetted rich. There could be a float bowl/inlet valve issue. You probably got a #40 pilot jet, and #120 main jet. These are probably OK at higher elevations. If you are below 1000 feet, those are on the lean side.

Red hot pipe is more likely to be a sign of lean jetting. Rejetting this carb is covered in the 2022 1/2 Templar X thread in this video and pics section.

Opening up the carb is on the post #7, and details are also on post #25.

I posted detailed needle shim instruction somewhere here. I need to track it down and add that to the 2022 1/2 thread. Ah, I found it. See the next post...

[Thumper]

The taper on the jet needle determines just how much fuel is allowed up into the venturi area from the float bowl as the slide is lifter (throttle twist). Some needles have a clip and maybe 5 positions to select from. But even if your needle doesn't have this adjustment, you can shim it with washers without changing the position of the clip. That lifts the needle too. I remember learning how to do this on Suzuki CV carbs. The concept is the same, but much easier with just one carb!

It's tight but doable without removing the exhaust on the Templar X. While you are in there, you may also want to bump main jet by one step, and I've also bumped the pilot by one step (still need brief choke to start in cold weather, but not in Summer)

Here's how to shim the needle:
You can loosen the clamps on both sides of the carb, twist the carb top to the right, unscrew the slide cap, and pull the slide out over the head pipe.

Remove the cable from the slide by making slack so the clamped button on the end of the cable can come out via the slot on the side of the slide. You need to compress the large return spring to make slack in the cable. Careful not to lose control of the spring, and keep it clean.

Now that you have the slide out and disconnected from the carb, reach in with hemostat or long skinny pliers to pinch and remove the clip down in the bottom of the slide. Push the needle up/out of the slide. Slide a tiny washer (1mm or so) onto the needle and reinstall the needle. You have now shimmed the needle.

Reinstall the needle clip to hold the needle in the slide. The needle clip/clamp that holds the needle down won't seem to fit all the way down, but that's OK... It will be held down by the large spring-no problem

Reinstall the cable (don't forget to make sure the large spring is between the slide cap and slide barrel. Now you see the large spring holding down the needle clip at the bottom of the slide, even though the clip didn't seem to fit. It's going nowhere, and the needle will stay planted!

Put the slide back into the carb. The slot on the side of the slide must align with the guide post in the inside of slide tower (only one way in!).
Screw the cap back on and straighten the carb back in place, tighten the clamps. Done.

[gtrmaster88]

Originally Posted by Thumper

It would be highly unusual if it were sent jetted rich. You probably got a #40 pilot jet, and #120 main jet. These are probably OK at higher elevations. If you are below 1000 feet, those are on the lean side.

Red hot pipe is more likely to be a sign of lean jetting. Rejetting this carb is covered in the 2022 1/2 Templar X thread in the pics and video section.

To be honest I had never thought about elevation but according to a quick online search, Morehead Kentucky where I reside (across the country from ol' Cali where this bike came from), I'm at 738' above sea level. So I'm sure you're probably right. Probably need to re-jet. Is there a link or place online you all would suggest for ordering the correct jets to fit the PE28?

[Thumper]

For jets, look at post 18 above
See the reference to posts #7 and #25 there? That's where the jet info is ( where to get them).