can't kick csc tt250 / bump

motochutuya · 11-11-2020, 05:21 PM

I picked up my tt250 in azusa and the folks at csc demonstrated a kick start for me easy peezy, 3rd of 4th kick it started....meanwhile I try and no luck. I've tried kicking for nearly an hour, choke on, choke off, choke midway.....

Any thoughts ? also what gear have you guys tried for bump starting

**JerryHawk250** · 11-11-2020, 05:29 PM

Will it start with the electric start? Kill switch off? Trick to kick starting is to push the kick start till you feel resistance from compression then let up on the kick start so it can reengage the gear then give it a good kick. If that makes since. It will get easier to kick start once the engine breaks in. I usually can kick start my hawk on the 1st or 2nd kick even if it is cold. I also have higher compression that stock.

motochutuya · 11-11-2020, 06:14 PM

jerry, excellent point the engine isnt broken in yet...new cylinder... Let me try again in 1k :(

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feel resistance from compression then let up on the kick start so it can reengage the gear then give it a good kick.

yeah I think i gotta be more sensitive

culcune · 11-11-2020, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Kill switch off?

Check the kill switch on the right side. I mean, only newbies accidentally push the switch and cannot start their bikes and not realize they pushed in the switch. Oh no, only people new to riding...not me like twice in the past few years...

Plump Kibbles · 11-11-2020, 10:09 PM

Clutch pulled in? Brake engaged? Kickstand up? I couldn't get mine to kick start till I adjusted my valves.. now it starts every kick! Cold starts; maybe 2-3, but not many. Also try getting the compression going on the kicker - I'm sure you know that though.. Weird - I can't put my hands on it so I'm not much help through the keyboard! And bump start, try 2nd. If you can get to a hill, it's much easier. And battery terminal connections - my buddies Ninja just had a weird issue staying on; moved the negative battery cable a little and tightened it back down, good to go after that.

Wild Dog · 11-12-2020, 09:09 AM

Something i did learn after an old 2 stroke hit my leg hard that it hurt for weeks, is that kick starting is a form of art.
For the CSC guys it was easy to kick start them, because they maybe quite used to kick start and those motorcycles.
Plus those kick start on CG are quite stiff when new

**JerryHawk250** · 11-12-2020, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wild Dog

Something i did learn after an old 2 stroke hit my leg hard that it hurt for weeks, is that kick starting is a form of art.
For the CSC guys it was easy to kick start them, because they maybe quite used to kick start and those motorcycles.
Plus those kick start on CG are quite stiff when new

Yeah, and some of us old coots like me been doing it for over 45 years.

RedCrowRides · 11-12-2020, 09:57 PM

Lmao, shout to " old coots club " members, hell i know i'm in it i aint gonna lie haha!

Magician16 · 11-19-2020, 11:14 AM

My Magician would not kick start when new. I had to have over 500 miles, valves adjusted right, and carb. slow jet and mixture right before it would. It kick starts fine now.

TxTaoRider · 11-19-2020, 11:55 AM

I went out trail riding with a friend who has a crf250r last weekend and kick started my bike a couple times to show him I have a "real dirtbike". It usually started on the 2nd kick... Which was less than his honda. It sometimes took him 4 or 5 kicks.

Plump Kibbles · 11-19-2020, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magician16

My Magician would not kick start when new. I had to have over 500 miles, valves adjusted right, and carb. slow jet and mixture right before it would. It kick starts fine now.

Same for my bike - wouldn't kick till after setting the valves. I barely have 200mi though, you got me there!

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motochutuya Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 47	can't kick csc tt250 / bump I picked up my tt250 in azusa and the folks at csc demonstrated a kick start for me easy peezy, 3rd of 4th kick it started....meanwhile I try and no luck. I've tried kicking for nearly an hour, choke on, choke off, choke midway..... Any thoughts ? also what gear have you guys tried for bump starting
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TxTaoRider Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Flower Mound Texas Posts: 904	I went out trail riding with a friend who has a crf250r last weekend and kick started my bike a couple times to show him I have a "real dirtbike". It usually started on the 2nd kick... Which was less than his honda. It sometimes took him 4 or 5 kicks. __________________ 2021 Tao Tbr7 - "Lucille" Mods so far- Brozz swingarm, 21" front rim (Bridgestone Tw302 rear/Dunlop D606 front tires), Digital gauge cluster, pz30b pumper carb, after market hand guards, aftermarket brake and clutch levers, round fold away mirrors, Fly handlebars shortened slightly, 13t front sprocket 2009 Q-link Legacy 250 1982 Suzuki GS1100ES - "Jolene"
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11-11-2020, 10:09 PM	#5
Plump Kibbles Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 233	Clutch pulled in? Brake engaged? Kickstand up? I couldn't get mine to kick start till I adjusted my valves.. now it starts every kick! Cold starts; maybe 2-3, but not many. Also try getting the compression going on the kicker - I'm sure you know that though.. Weird - I can't put my hands on it so I'm not much help through the keyboard! And bump start, try 2nd. If you can get to a hill, it's much easier. And battery terminal connections - my buddies Ninja just had a weird issue staying on; moved the negative battery cable a little and tightened it back down, good to go after that.
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11-12-2020, 09:09 AM	#6
Wild Dog Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Argentina Posts: 756	Something i did learn after an old 2 stroke hit my leg hard that it hurt for weeks, is that kick starting is a form of art. For the CSC guys it was easy to kick start them, because they maybe quite used to kick start and those motorcycles. Plus those kick start on CG are quite stiff when new
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11-19-2020, 11:14 AM	#9
Magician16 Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 472	My Magician would not kick start when new. I had to have over 500 miles, valves adjusted right, and carb. slow jet and mixture right before it would. It kick starts fine now.
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