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Old 11-26-2019, 09:31 AM   #1
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I looked for the Nd4SPH mod but was unable to locate anyone that had it or where to get it so I just went with the Race Tech springs .065. I have not installed yet but will be an improvement I'm sure.
The mod is basically some parts from a hardware store. The top of the idk what it is called sits inside the fork cap. What the mod is, is that it creates a spacer so that it adds more preload.

https://www.hondagrom.net/forums/49-...ds-better.html

This works only on the 1st gen Grom forks.

For the second gen Grom forks...

https://www.hondagrom.net/forums/7-g...orks-free.html

In the two links, you can see how they're different. I have no idea how the Grom Clone forks are (I never opened mine up).

Either way... I think swapping to the Grom forks like you did is the best option since it opens you up to the aftermarket fork internals.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:38 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by wlfpck View Post
The mod is basically some parts from a hardware store. The top of the idk what it is called sits inside the fork cap. What the mod is, is that it creates a spacer so that it adds more preload.

https://www.hondagrom.net/forums/49-...ds-better.html

This works only on the 1st gen Grom forks.

For the second gen Grom forks...

https://www.hondagrom.net/forums/7-g...orks-free.html

In the two links, you can see how they're different. I have no idea how the Grom Clone forks are (I never opened mine up).

Either way... I think swapping to the Grom forks like you did is the best option since it opens you up to the aftermarket fork internals.
Will be a week or so until I am on the road. Still in tearing down stage.
My Vader/10 front suspension is similar to the Gen2 Groms. Here a couple pix of the innards.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:11 AM   #3
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wlfpck Thanks for that write up, I was aware that it did consist of some hardware items but did not have a list to go by. Next yr when I get around to improving the forks I might try this along with new fork oil and the race Tech springs. Thanks again.
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:40 AM   #4
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wlfpck Thanks for that write up, I was aware that it did consist of some hardware items but did not have a list to go by. Next yr when I get around to improving the forks I might try this along with new fork oil and the race Tech springs. Thanks again.
No problem!

This is the part list that is for the 1st gen Grom to do that ND4sph mod.

2x - 59363-F - 1in Spacer (5/16ID - .469in OD - 1in Long)
4x - 3815-F - Neoprene washer (7/16ID - 1in OD)
2x - 43110-N - M8x50 1.25 pitch bolt
2x - 43893-E - Small M8 Washer

The part numbers are from Hillman.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:00 PM   #5
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These are the Preload adjusters I used on my Gen 2 Vader they are from SSR , pretty sure they were about $99 . Together with a fork oil change to 15w they made them pretty decent .These are adjustable as far as preload, you can get a set of Takagawa preload adjusters for like 49$ from WeBike but they are a set " max" preload and are not adjustable .
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:54 AM   #6
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These are the Preload adjusters I used on my Gen 2 Vader they are from SSR , pretty sure they were about $99 . Together with a fork oil change to 15w they made them pretty decent .These are adjustable as far as preload, you can get a set of Takagawa preload adjusters for like 49$ from WeBike but they are a set " max" preload and are not adjustable .

I do have a pair of these laying around somewhere, I will probably go this route with the fork oil and springs, still looking for a 2015-2016 Grom upper/lower triple tree assy for cheap.
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ZS190/Genuine PE28
Kepspeed GP1 Exhaust
Protaper se x110 bars/grips
1/4 MotionPro throttle
Kepspeed Braced swingarm
Chimera rear hub assy
Grom Intergrated tail light
Superlite Sprockets 17/32
custom made from Japan
Chimera Swing Arm Bolt
RK MXZ Chain #420
All Balls wheel bearings
Motodynamic fender eliminator
Coremoto ss brake lines
Composimo 2.5 lower link
Grom Calipers-w/ebc pads/rotors
Michelin tire 140&120
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