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Old 11-10-2018, 09:36 PM   #1
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Solenoid Chaos and a Bruised Leg

I had to replace my starter solenoid, so I ordered a Chinese one off EBay for $6.

It didn’t have a fuse like the one on the Hawk so I recycled the fuse assembly from he previous solenoid and wired in the new Chinese solenoid.

It worked! Started fine 4 times, then nothing. I rechecked everything, all good. I can start it by jumping the solenoid with a screwdriver so I know it’s not the starter or the cutoff switch. When I press the ignition button I can hear the solenoid push the internal spring but nothing happens.

So what killed the solenoid? Why did it work 4 times and then die? I don’t know much about solenoids, are they easy to kill somehow?

I’m real tired of kickstarting, my foot slipped the last time I started it and I left a good amount of skin on the kickstart lever...


 
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:43 PM   #2
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possably the $6 prise tag is a bit of a hint as to what happened...




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Old 11-10-2018, 10:52 PM   #3
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Ha I agree, financial decisions are the root cause but what is the mechanical cause?


 
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:36 PM   #4
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:36 AM   #5
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Sorry, I didn’t understand that last post. Some Chinese stuff is good, some bad is maybe what you’re driving at?


 
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:22 AM   #6
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Looks like you can get em on amazon. better than waiting for shipping from where ever.

Even if it is not the same it looks like it might work.

https://www.amazon.com/Starter-Solen...SIN=B007X6R9PI


 
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:27 AM   #7
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I had to replace my starter solenoid, so I ordered a Chinese one off EBay for $6.

It didn’t have a fuse like the one on the Hawk so I recycled the fuse assembly from he previous solenoid and wired in the new Chinese solenoid.

It worked! Started fine 4 times, then nothing. I rechecked everything, all good. I can start it by jumping the solenoid with a screwdriver so I know it’s not the starter or the cutoff switch. When I press the ignition button I can hear the solenoid push the internal spring but nothing happens.

So what killed the solenoid? Why did it work 4 times and then die? I don’t know much about solenoids, are they easy to kill somehow?

I’m real tired of kickstarting, my foot slipped the last time I started it and I left a good amount of skin on the kickstart lever...

Make sure you aren't loosing voltage at the relay on the trigger side, not the starter side. Sounds like a heat issue from a bad connection. Possibly a grounding issue.


 
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:14 PM   #8
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I had same problem and it ended up being my starter. It easy to remove and check.


 
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:36 PM   #9
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Sorry, I didn’t understand that last post. Some Chinese stuff is good, some bad is maybe what you’re driving at?

I think the link and post is saying Plated Copper contacts bad, solid copper contacts good. Basically you get what you pay for...


A buck fifty per start is kinda expensive... which reminds me another saying I heard: you can go broke trying to save money, or something like that.
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